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SunSeeker

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94. LOL So you won't give me your "sources"?

Sat Nov 26, 2022, 07:01 PM

Nov 2022

And yes, NY 15 didn't move much in terms of the % the Dem was winning by, but those numbers left to come in are solidly (82.6%+) Democratic. Districts like that will change the House vote total.

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California and New York [View all] USAFRetired_Liberal Nov 2022 OP

This is one of the big reasons why the republic won't survive. roamer65 Nov 2022 #1

This is exactly what I have been predicting for a long time. jg10003 Nov 2022 #6

I steadfastly believe NY and New England would quickly become Canadian provinces. roamer65 Nov 2022 #10

the point is that the union will be dissolved. What happens jg10003 Nov 2022 #11

Yup. It's going to happen. roamer65 Nov 2022 #13

I don't think so Cosmocat Nov 2022 #59

The military would split. roamer65 Nov 2022 #62

Leadership is overwhelmingly white Cosmocat Nov 2022 #81

Michigan is the most Canadian state in the US marmar Nov 2022 #39

Very true. roamer65 Nov 2022 #42

If there is an R POTUS and Cali tries to break they will 100% Cosmocat Nov 2022 #57

"A pro-independence referendum will pass and California will declare itself an independent nation." Iggo Nov 2022 #67

So true. We outnumber repubs but always seem to get outflanked by... brush Nov 2022 #2

California may have an independent redistricting commission... BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #3

It worked that way in MI as well. roamer65 Nov 2022 #5

That CA commission is only 1/3 Democrats, and totally screwed Katie Porter. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #7

Rather misleading, as Katrie Porter did not represent CA-47 prior to running for the newly drawn Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #12

WTF is "misleading"? Katie Porter did NOT move, her district boundaries did. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #14

Yes, the district lines moved. But you showed a map for a district that Katie Porter Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #15

The map shows how CA 47 changed. What is so natural about only having rich beach towns...and Irvine? SunSeeker Nov 2022 #16

Again, Porter was not the Representative for CA-47. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #17

There is nothing natural about concentrating the rich white Republican vote. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #18

Wrong. The stated aim is to identify Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #19

Wrong. If that was so, why not keep Seal Beach with Long Beach, like it used to be? SunSeeker Nov 2022 #20

IMS the commision, which is supposed to act in a non-partisan fashion, is Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #22

What fucking "common interest" does Irvine have with Seal Beach?? SunSeeker Nov 2022 #23

I simply disagree. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #24

You refuse to say what that "common interest" or "fit" is. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #25

It wasn't a pro-Republican majority on the commission. That's false. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #27

Only 5 of the 14 members are Dems. That is a fucking pro-Republican majority. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #29

9 of the 14 members are not Republicans. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #31

No, 9 of 14 are not Dems. The "independents" on the Commission are Republican lite. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #32

Do you seriously not know what links Laguna Woods and Seal Beach? Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #34

I asked you why does Seal Beach form a "very natural district" with Irvine, as you claim. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #35

I asked you what Laguna Woods and Seal Beach had in common Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Nov 2022 #47

OFFS, you're the one dodging questions. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #48

Seal Beach breaks slightly Democratic. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #51

Wrong. Seal Beach voted in Republican Michelle Steel as its House Representative in 2020. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #55

You conflated the voting of the district at large with that of Seal Beach. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #65

As I pointed out to you, with link, Seal Beach R's outnumber D's. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #68

Seal Beach voted for Biden over Trump. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #70

Barely. Trump raised our taxes by gutting the state and local tax deduction. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #72

Biden got a majority in Seal Beach. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #74

"I've never argued that the demographic in this area are not challenging." SunSeeker Nov 2022 #78

What's your problem? Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #79

Yesterday you said "Seal Beach breaks slightly Democratic." SunSeeker Nov 2022 #87

Which is correct. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #90

Nope, you never said why Irvine and Seal Beach have "common interests." SunSeeker Nov 2022 #95

I said Irvine is an integral part of northern coastal Orange County, which is the case. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #96

LOL. Irvine is not considered part of northern coastal OC, let alone an "integral" part. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #99

Seal Beach does have much in common with Long Beach. Not denying it for a moment. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #107

Seal Beach and Irvine do not have "economic integration." SunSeeker Nov 2022 #108

You are not posting in good faith. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #110

Disagreeing with you is not "posting in bad faith." SunSeeker Nov 2022 #111

Suggesting I desire for Katie Porter to have a tougher district is a flat out lie. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #112

You just spent a week trying to defend the commission doing that to her. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #114

Speaking for my own state In It to Win It Nov 2022 #9

When voters are suppressed, it appears the suppressor is getting more votes. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #26

Couldn't agree more. I've been saying this for a while now. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #4

In CA Zeitghost Nov 2022 #28

Only 23.9% of Californians are registered as Republicans. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #33

Registration is not the same as votes cast Zeitghost Nov 2022 #38

Republicans get more representatives in the House, per Republican voter, than Democratic voters get. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #40

I'm not sure what you're talking about Zeitghost Nov 2022 #41

This is what I'm talking about: SunSeeker Nov 2022 #43

Thats 2016... Zeitghost Nov 2022 #44

California is still counting. Where'd you get your 2022 numbers? SunSeeker Nov 2022 #46

It hasn't gotten worse Zeitghost Nov 2022 #49

So you have no link and you made up the 2022 numbers. Got it. nt SunSeeker Nov 2022 #50

You are more than free to challenge my numbers Zeitghost Nov 2022 #52

The complete numbers for 2022 are not out yet. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #53

It's not made up SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #54

California won't be done counting votes until Dec. 8. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #56

Numbers have been updated SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #60

Nov 16th Zeitghost Nov 2022 #64

Dec 8th SunSeeker Nov 2022 #69

If all remaining CA votes SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #71

We'll see. Projections aren't facts. nt SunSeeker Nov 2022 #73

I'm not talking about orojections SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #75

A handful of votes in CA Zeitghost Nov 2022 #76

It's not a "handful." And you now admit you were stating a projection, not the actual vote total. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #77

That's an awful analogy Zeitghost Nov 2022 #80

We'll see. nt SunSeeker Nov 2022 #82

That's just it Zeitghost Nov 2022 #83

Facts obviously don't matter n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #84

That's your opinion. nt SunSeeker Nov 2022 #85

No Zeitghost Nov 2022 #86

The numbers actually aren't my opiniom SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #88

The Cook's link is not the final total. CA is not the only state with lots of outstanding votes. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #93

Florida is already done SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #98

You're the one who won't accept numerical facts. "80-90% counted" is not fully counted. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #105

Where do you see SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #106

You'll have to do the math. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #109

Unless SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #116

It's 26 House races in NY. And each of those House ballots had the Schumer race on it too. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #119

Well... Zeitghost Dec 2022 #121

If you're that obsessed with this, add it up yourself. SunSeeker Dec 2022 #122

I've counted Zeitghost Dec 2022 #123

Cool story, bro. nt SunSeeker Dec 2022 #124

You've suddenly lost interest? Zeitghost Dec 2022 #125

I can wait for professionals with better access to data, like Brookings, to issue reports. SunSeeker Dec 2022 #126

Lol Zeitghost Dec 2022 #127

California Zeitghost Nov 2022 #63

The GOP can't win fairly. Laffy Kat Nov 2022 #8

The ultimate blame in all of this.... The Grand Illuminist Nov 2022 #21

spot on Cosmocat Nov 2022 #58

Speaking with my upstate NY family, bail reform did it mainer Nov 2022 #30

Bail reform didn't do it. 4 conservative NY judges screwed Democrats in NY. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #36

Just repeating what my independent-voting relatives said mainer Nov 2022 #37

In the NY House Elections: Zeitghost Nov 2022 #89

What link are you getting those numbers from? Reuters still does not have complete NY vote totals. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #91

As I said, I get numbers from various sources to populate my database Zeitghost Nov 2022 #92

LOL So you won't give me your "sources"? SunSeeker Nov 2022 #94

I've already showed you Zeitghost Nov 2022 #97

Truth n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #100

You haven't shown anything. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #104

CNN SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #101

CNN shows only 90% counted in the statewide Schumer race, just like Reuters does. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #115

But we're not talking about SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #117

Schumer's race is a statewide race. It's a shortcut to adding up all the NY House races. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #118

Excellent analysis. Kid Berwyn Nov 2022 #61

Oh yeah, we suck. Iggo Nov 2022 #66

illinois dems did a bit of gerrymandering of their own orleans Nov 2022 #102

I agree 100% and I think in 2024 even with the deck Tribetime Nov 2022 #103

I think you're right. It will be a presidential election year, when there's greater Dem turnout. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #113

I lived in CA Old Crank Nov 2022 #120