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In reply to the discussion: California and New York [View all]orleans
(36,800 posts)102. illinois dems did a bit of gerrymandering of their own
video at link:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/illinois-may-be-the-worst-democratic-gerrymander-in-the-country/
Illinoiss aggressive gerrymander is a big part of the reason Democrats have gained seats from redistricting nationwide this year. But it could also backfire. In order to draw so many blue seats, Democrats had to spread their voters thin, leaving some districts with only a small Democratic lean. If Republicans have a strong 2022 election, they could end up winning not only their three safely red seats but also those light-blue seats. This gerrymander could end up being the biggest blunder in Illinois since Mrs. OLearys cow knocked over that lantern.
To be sure, this map will most likely help Democrats in their quest to hold onto the House. But its also possible that theyve bitten off more than they can chew.
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I steadfastly believe NY and New England would quickly become Canadian provinces.
roamer65
Nov 2022
#10
"A pro-independence referendum will pass and California will declare itself an independent nation."
Iggo
Nov 2022
#67
Rather misleading, as Katrie Porter did not represent CA-47 prior to running for the newly drawn
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#12
Yes, the district lines moved. But you showed a map for a district that Katie Porter
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#15
The map shows how CA 47 changed. What is so natural about only having rich beach towns...and Irvine?
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#16
Wrong. If that was so, why not keep Seal Beach with Long Beach, like it used to be?
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#20
IMS the commision, which is supposed to act in a non-partisan fashion, is
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#22
It wasn't a pro-Republican majority on the commission. That's false.
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#27
Only 5 of the 14 members are Dems. That is a fucking pro-Republican majority.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#29
No, 9 of 14 are not Dems. The "independents" on the Commission are Republican lite.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#32
I asked you why does Seal Beach form a "very natural district" with Irvine, as you claim.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#35
Wrong. Seal Beach voted in Republican Michelle Steel as its House Representative in 2020.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#55
You conflated the voting of the district at large with that of Seal Beach.
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#65
I said Irvine is an integral part of northern coastal Orange County, which is the case.
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#96
LOL. Irvine is not considered part of northern coastal OC, let alone an "integral" part.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#99
Seal Beach does have much in common with Long Beach. Not denying it for a moment.
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#107
Suggesting I desire for Katie Porter to have a tougher district is a flat out lie.
Just A Box Of Rain
Nov 2022
#112
When voters are suppressed, it appears the suppressor is getting more votes.
Hermit-The-Prog
Nov 2022
#26
Republicans get more representatives in the House, per Republican voter, than Democratic voters get.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#40
It's not a "handful." And you now admit you were stating a projection, not the actual vote total.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#77
The Cook's link is not the final total. CA is not the only state with lots of outstanding votes.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#93
You're the one who won't accept numerical facts. "80-90% counted" is not fully counted.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#105
It's 26 House races in NY. And each of those House ballots had the Schumer race on it too.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#119
I can wait for professionals with better access to data, like Brookings, to issue reports.
SunSeeker
Dec 2022
#126
What link are you getting those numbers from? Reuters still does not have complete NY vote totals.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#91
CNN shows only 90% counted in the statewide Schumer race, just like Reuters does.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#115
Schumer's race is a statewide race. It's a shortcut to adding up all the NY House races.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#118
I think you're right. It will be a presidential election year, when there's greater Dem turnout.
SunSeeker
Nov 2022
#113