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In reply to the discussion: Kirstie Alley has died. [View all]

Igel

(37,646 posts)
25. Perhaps.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 10:18 PM
Dec 2022

But my SIL wasn't a Scientologist and died years earlier in her struggle against cancer than Alley.

Didn't always approve of her, but I always appreciated her. She managed to get my mother to accept a caregiver when nobody else could--and that made the difference between having cops haul her off to "assisted living" against her will and not. Forced to move would have destroyed my mom. I owe her, but can never repay her. Oddly, I don't think she'd be okay with repayment.

At the same time, she was church treasurer for her Episcopal church. After years of fundraising to build a church building, a year after it opened the church split. The official church changed doctrine and her "heretical but faithful" group split off. The result was that the congregation was too small to pay utilities and grounds-keeping, and a few months later the building was put up for sale, to benefit "central office." Her new but same church started a new building fund. She forgave those she thought heretics--after all, a heretic is somebody who starts and promotes a faction at odds with historical precedent, and that was clearly "central office"--power and privilege wins most of the time. In her view, the heretics won. And she moved on. Only to die a year or so later, her will asking that large donation from her estate be donated to the building fund.

I attended a church that met at libitum of other groups. A grange met on some night? We met on Shabbat. Conveniently, almost always when they needed their hall a 7th-day group didn't observe the same day as sabbath. In the days before email and texts, it was totally possible to show up and find that it was a different group at the grange or meeting hall and wonder where you were to be. There were limitations on storage, on what was on the walls (invariably there'd be things opposed to our doctrines on the wall). We'd haul things every week, cover things every week. Kludges abounded.

Wasn't close to my SIl, who died at 72 but I still really miss her. As does my brother.

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Kirstie Alley has died. [View all] edbermac Dec 2022 OP
.... CatWoman Dec 2022 #1
When I was much younger I remember my mother watching the news. Igel Dec 2022 #6
It is worse when they Codifer Dec 2022 #24
My guess is that she had a substandard doctor that Scientology recommended. no_hypocrisy Dec 2022 #2
Her family sad it was cancer. Came on quickly and she went fast. Lucinda Dec 2022 #41
She was being treated at Moffitt Cancer Center. Duppers Dec 2022 #55
Wow... Yes, she had quite the rollercoaster life the past couple of decades... hlthe2b Dec 2022 #3
Perhaps. Igel Dec 2022 #25
pretty tumultuous life she had. Really went off the rails in her later years. Takket Dec 2022 #4
She wanted more money than Shatner to do ST:III. So they replaced her with the lovely Robin Curtis. Earth-shine Dec 2022 #5
If I recall correctly, that was sort of a "give us an offer we have to refuse" sort of thing JHB Dec 2022 #11
me too lol Takket Dec 2022 #18
Got you beat! I met her at an ST con at the Stony Brook, NY campus in the late 80s. Earth-shine Dec 2022 #19
ah! that's so cool! Takket Dec 2022 #22
She was taller KS Toronado Dec 2022 #66
Didn't recognize her. Igel Dec 2022 #8
Earlier in her career, Kristie was in rehab for cocaine use. She then got into Scientology. debm55 Dec 2022 #60
So sorry Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #7
Seventy-one?!?! Jeezus, when did that happen? Iggo Dec 2022 #9
I was thinking the same thing... W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #40
Always sad to hear of deaths by cancer....... a kennedy Dec 2022 #10
That they did. Xavier Breath Dec 2022 #26
Exactly, Shelley was a goddess on that show. a kennedy Dec 2022 #31
Cancer sucks. Solly Mack Dec 2022 #12
That it does. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #13
I'm a survivor. It got my father. Solly Mack Dec 2022 #15
Sorry to hear about your dad but glad you're a survivor! Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #16
Thank you. Solly Mack Dec 2022 #17
My mom is dying from it now. We signed the hospice papers today. Solomon Dec 2022 #44
I'm so sorry. Solly Mack Dec 2022 #45
So sorry. 🕯 Duppers Dec 2022 #56
So sorry, Solly Mack. But I can relate on both. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Dec 2022 #46
It's a big club. Too big. Developing cancer, that is. Solly Mack Dec 2022 #47
You're right about the too big club. Thank you. I'm glad you are, too. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Dec 2022 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #14
Only some people are really people. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #20
Well aren't you edgy. TheProle Dec 2022 #21
That's a pretty crappy thing to say. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #23
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #27
Another +1 hamsterjill Dec 2022 #38
I'll just put you on Ignore SCantiGOP Dec 2022 #30
It's war. No one has to like it. The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #34
Don't understand your shitty comment. debm55 Dec 2022 #53
Nice to see you deleted your original comments... WarGamer Dec 2022 #58
I may have went a little too far, given losing my parents to cancer. The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #64
Well, your enemy is dead. hamsterjill Dec 2022 #36
She is an enemy, and not our fellow american. LenaBaby61 Dec 2022 #43
RIP Ohio Joe Dec 2022 #28
Well 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2022 #29
+1000 SergeStorms Dec 2022 #39
(For ME) Her authentic fun charisma crashed on her limited insight. UTUSN Dec 2022 #32
I have nothing to say. Lunabell Dec 2022 #33
She really YOLOed life Kennah Dec 2022 #35
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Dec 2022 #37
I met her many years ago. Grumpy Old Guy Dec 2022 #42
RIP. Liberal In Texas Dec 2022 #48
Lady of the Beasts, please take Your little one gently home in Your loving arms, and niyad Dec 2022 #62
Just found out from TikTok ismnotwasm Dec 2022 #50
All things must pass VWolf Dec 2022 #51
RIP. I detested her politics, but cancer is horrid. Trump deserves it though, in spades. Celerity Dec 2022 #52
Was never a great fan but sorry she has passed Norbert Dec 2022 #54
Waiting to hear from John Travolta Omaha Steve Dec 2022 #57
May Kirstie Alley Rest In Peace and May her Memory be a Blessing. n/t iluvtennis Dec 2022 #59
May she rest in peace. Catherine Vincent Dec 2022 #61
oh well? Tarc Dec 2022 #63
Yeah. Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #67
Karma is unforgiving. AlexSFCA Dec 2022 #65
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