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stopdiggin

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80. true. but even 'copies' must be scrupulously managed

Sun Dec 11, 2022, 01:58 PM

Dec 2022

(presenting the same security risks as originals) and the basic problem, as freedom points to, is that the 'head guy' was inherently slothful - and a breaker of rules and laws.

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The empty top secret folders found in Trumps desk. [View all] fightforfreedom Dec 2022 OP

Some talking head on tv cyclonefence Dec 2022 #1

The reason they were empty DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #30

This is what I think, too. CrispyQ Dec 2022 #53

Wow! luvallpeeps Dec 2022 #2

Just my opinion. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #4

I believe there were dozens of empty classified folders founds. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #6

Let me add this thought. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #3

He might have done so. He loves souvenirs to remind him how special he is. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #8

If anyone sold them, I'm guessing intheflow Dec 2022 #20

I think there are probably markings or codes on the folders.. Historic NY Dec 2022 #5

Hard to believe no one was administratively responsible for the President's documents dutch777 Dec 2022 #7

Yes. People in far less important jobs have much more stringent paperwork rules/laws. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #10

I had read for YEARS that such special docs were hand delivered by a courier (my word) and that.... machoneman Dec 2022 #14

Exactly. And like I've said a million times, why aren't the Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #23

We don't know if the staff on the other end are talking or not Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #50

You may be right. But not a single leak when there were Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #52

Not hard to imagine Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #58

think there have been 'leaks', to the extent stopdiggin Dec 2022 #79

Based on more that I read, the whole system must not Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #82

Not only does he likely not know where the documents are... kentuck Dec 2022 #9

He only cares if someone stole information important to him personally. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #11

And I have gotten to the point where I do not care what happens to him or his followers... kentuck Dec 2022 #12

That's good, since nothing will happen to most of them. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #16

One can only imagine DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #34

We will never know the full extent of the damage. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #60

That's not hoarding. It's Trump thinking he's pulling a fast one. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #13

I'm with you judesedit Dec 2022 #36

Trump is brilliant, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #15

When describing Trump I would never use the word brilliant. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #19

I listened to Mary Trump Friday gab13by13 Dec 2022 #28

Everything he touches fails. He loses all the time. He is in a constant state of fixing his failures fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #62

It takes a giant idiot Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #70

Not owing taxes is pretty damn remarkable. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #83

He's not smart Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #55

Good post. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #64

I agree that Trump is not as stupid as he projects. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #22

Has it been proven that it was Trump who took the documents? gab13by13 Dec 2022 #29

They went to his resort, they were in his desk. Yes he took them. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #68

Totally agree. It has to take a brilliant deviant to evade Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #24

He has a great deal of low cunning Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #65

tRump is never brilliant. He is CLEVER with social media (incl. TV show) and Other People's Money.nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #31

"The best con man in history" is a given... rubbersole Dec 2022 #35

"He tells it like it is and doesn't back down." Captain Zero Dec 2022 #49

Maybe it's time for DOJ to indict Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #17

If you had been following the news... you'd know it is NOT Garland's decision Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #32

Mr. Condescending with his big post total strikes again Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #37

Indeed. triron Dec 2022 #44

I yawn at the attack on person, not dealing with facts or law of SC Smith role. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #59

Not attacking you, revealing you Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #63

I just cross-posted, making 63 moot. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #69

Only the SC can indict, at this point. Garland can veto it, but can't indict. Must say if nixes. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #56

As to your last sentence, thx for backhanded compliment, but persuasion rooted in mistakes fails. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #66

If I had an olive branch I would extend it to you Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #71

Think of the metaphorical branch as received and I will consider your advice carefully. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #72

Likewise. Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #74

Actually, Jack Smith recommends. rubbersole Dec 2022 #38

Garland has veto only; required to say so if doing so. Indictment power has been transferred. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #57

So, if I understand correctly Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #73

That is my understanding. I think Smith inherits ongoing grand jury and investigation, re step 1. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #75

Excellent. I will keep all of this in mind before embarking Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #76

I base my understanding on the first half or so of this NYT article Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #77

Tried but it seems to be behind a paywall Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #78

Garland is still in charge. He makes the final decisions. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #41

Nope. At this point he can only nix SCounsel indictments & must say so. He can't indict, only SC. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #54

So now I'm thinking with Dipshit's popularity diminishing anyway Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #33

The DOJ doesn't indict Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #67

Did they look next to the golden toilet? I suspect great bathroom reading. Pepsidog Dec 2022 #18

maybe he was asked to get specific docs and took others and/or folders to create a diversion Blues Heron Dec 2022 #21

I think he shuffled documents into other folders willy-nilly FakeNoose Dec 2022 #25

THIS BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #27

I can imagine Trump doing something like this, don't laugh he is capable of doing this. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #39

That probably happened too BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #45

true. but even 'copies' must be scrupulously managed stopdiggin Dec 2022 #80

Of course BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #81

More likely, imo relayerbob Dec 2022 #26

Did the diplomatic pouch look like a cheap knock-off purse by any chance? rubbersole Dec 2022 #40

Possibly relayerbob Dec 2022 #46

Did the purse say Ivanka/made in China? rubbersole Dec 2022 #61

Why not make copies and put the originals back in the folder? fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #43

Why bother? He thought no one would look. relayerbob Dec 2022 #47

Trump could also be the fall guy. hay rick Dec 2022 #42

Hahahahahahahahaha relayerbob Dec 2022 #48

Yep. Con man gets conned. Captain Zero Dec 2022 #51

This was less an act of 'hoarding' (IMHO) than . . . peggysue2 Dec 2022 #84