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Just A Box Of Rain

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30. I think Confucius would get a big laugh from the arguement that
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 03:56 PM
Dec 2022

because the word "social," as in "social programs," has a root found in "socialism" somehow means they are synonymous, or even congruent, terms

You want to talk about "being funny?" That is hysterical.

FDR (and thank you for apprising me of the fact that FDR refers to Franklin Delano Roosevelt) listened to many people. That's a attribute of people who embrace pluralism and the marketplace of ideas. It is not, however, evidence that FDR (Franklin Delano Roosevelt) was a socialist, as that's clearly not so.

You make quite a few assumptions about what I don't know, but they are false ones.

Also, being attacked as "a socialist" by right-wing extremists does not ipso facto, make one a socialist. If we allow such nonsense, then fascists and the hard-right get to (falsely) frame the political debate, and that would be a massive mistake.

I graduated from the political science program at UC Berkeley, which at the time--and since--is held in faily high regard. Not a bastion of conservatism.

Since you have an education in such matters, which socialist state--now or in the past 100 years or so--whould you point to as a positive model for constructing a free and just society?

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the big stick llashram Dec 2022 #10
Smart to put it that way... Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #11
+1 H2O Man Dec 2022 #13
We can make jokes about socialism Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #12
Those darned socialists!!!!! H2O Man Dec 2022 #14
Being a Soviet apparatchik was Putin's path to power. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #15
I'm glad you H2O Man Dec 2022 #17
Must disagree on some basics. The military, roadbuilding, schools, hospitals, fire departments, etc. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #18
Really? H2O Man Dec 2022 #19
I agree with Confucius. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #20
You are funny! H2O Man Dec 2022 #21
One more thing: H2O Man Dec 2022 #22
Again, Confucius requires me to push back on the absurdist suggestion that liberal social programs Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #23
Gosh. H2O Man Dec 2022 #26
I think Confucius would get a big laugh from the arguement that Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #30
If socialism must claim the achievements of capitalist systems Hortensis Dec 2022 #54
I think "anti-capitalist" and "late stage capitalism" are the passwords to the club where betsuni Dec 2022 #61
Oh, yes. And claiming an AMC Gremlin is actually a Toyota Camry Hortensis Dec 2022 #62
The myth that the true roots of the Democratic Party are socialist, that FDR/LBJ betsuni Dec 2022 #32
Correct. This is gaslighting at its worst. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #33
Very gassy, and the obligatory personal insults. betsuni Dec 2022 #34
I'm still waiting to hear the answer to which socialist state--now or in the past 100 years or so-- Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #35
Yet you ignore H2O Man Dec 2022 #38
LBJ had all sorts of opponents. Ones on the far-right and ones on the far-left. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #40
Feeding the poor H2O Man Dec 2022 #43
A lot to unpack here, including personal insults, mischaracterizations, and outright falsehoods. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #45
The tax payers are the people who pay for those things, like building schools, roads etc, etc. panader0 Dec 2022 #36
So what? People paying taxes isn't "socialism" under any accepted definition of the term. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #37
As my friend Rubin H2O Man Dec 2022 #39
Your "other friend" will take the lack of response to the question I asked multiple times Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #41
It's a non-question. H2O Man Dec 2022 #44
It is hardly a non-question. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #46
Post removed Post removed Dec 2022 #47
No, It is a question that's germane in countries all over the world. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #48
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