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Laura PourMeADrink

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82. Based on more that I read, the whole system must not

Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:29 AM

Dec 2022

have worked. Kelly implemented a process to control sensitive docs at WH, but then he left. And trump would literally scream at people who tried to get docs away from him.

But It still doesn't explain the origination side... the way people checked out docs to take to him. There must not have been good controls there either. Jeez guess all you had to do was say trump had it. Hopefully everyone else was honest .

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The empty top secret folders found in Trumps desk. [View all] fightforfreedom Dec 2022 OP

Some talking head on tv cyclonefence Dec 2022 #1

The reason they were empty DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #30

This is what I think, too. CrispyQ Dec 2022 #53

Wow! luvallpeeps Dec 2022 #2

Just my opinion. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #4

I believe there were dozens of empty classified folders founds. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #6

Let me add this thought. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #3

He might have done so. He loves souvenirs to remind him how special he is. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #8

If anyone sold them, I'm guessing intheflow Dec 2022 #20

I think there are probably markings or codes on the folders.. Historic NY Dec 2022 #5

Hard to believe no one was administratively responsible for the President's documents dutch777 Dec 2022 #7

Yes. People in far less important jobs have much more stringent paperwork rules/laws. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #10

I had read for YEARS that such special docs were hand delivered by a courier (my word) and that.... machoneman Dec 2022 #14

Exactly. And like I've said a million times, why aren't the Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #23

We don't know if the staff on the other end are talking or not Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #50

You may be right. But not a single leak when there were Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #52

Not hard to imagine Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #58

think there have been 'leaks', to the extent stopdiggin Dec 2022 #79

Based on more that I read, the whole system must not Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #82

Not only does he likely not know where the documents are... kentuck Dec 2022 #9

He only cares if someone stole information important to him personally. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #11

And I have gotten to the point where I do not care what happens to him or his followers... kentuck Dec 2022 #12

That's good, since nothing will happen to most of them. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #16

One can only imagine DENVERPOPS Dec 2022 #34

We will never know the full extent of the damage. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #60

That's not hoarding. It's Trump thinking he's pulling a fast one. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #13

I'm with you judesedit Dec 2022 #36

Trump is brilliant, gab13by13 Dec 2022 #15

When describing Trump I would never use the word brilliant. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #19

I listened to Mary Trump Friday gab13by13 Dec 2022 #28

Everything he touches fails. He loses all the time. He is in a constant state of fixing his failures fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #62

It takes a giant idiot Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #70

Not owing taxes is pretty damn remarkable. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #83

He's not smart Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #55

Good post. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #64

I agree that Trump is not as stupid as he projects. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #22

Has it been proven that it was Trump who took the documents? gab13by13 Dec 2022 #29

They went to his resort, they were in his desk. Yes he took them. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #68

Totally agree. It has to take a brilliant deviant to evade Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #24

He has a great deal of low cunning Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #65

tRump is never brilliant. He is CLEVER with social media (incl. TV show) and Other People's Money.nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #31

"The best con man in history" is a given... rubbersole Dec 2022 #35

"He tells it like it is and doesn't back down." Captain Zero Dec 2022 #49

Maybe it's time for DOJ to indict Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #17

If you had been following the news... you'd know it is NOT Garland's decision Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #32

Mr. Condescending with his big post total strikes again Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #37

Indeed. triron Dec 2022 #44

I yawn at the attack on person, not dealing with facts or law of SC Smith role. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #59

Not attacking you, revealing you Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #63

I just cross-posted, making 63 moot. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #69

Only the SC can indict, at this point. Garland can veto it, but can't indict. Must say if nixes. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #56

As to your last sentence, thx for backhanded compliment, but persuasion rooted in mistakes fails. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #66

If I had an olive branch I would extend it to you Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #71

Think of the metaphorical branch as received and I will consider your advice carefully. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #72

Likewise. Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #74

Actually, Jack Smith recommends. rubbersole Dec 2022 #38

Garland has veto only; required to say so if doing so. Indictment power has been transferred. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #57

So, if I understand correctly Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #73

That is my understanding. I think Smith inherits ongoing grand jury and investigation, re step 1. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #75

Excellent. I will keep all of this in mind before embarking Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #76

I base my understanding on the first half or so of this NYT article Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #77

Tried but it seems to be behind a paywall Mr. Ected Dec 2022 #78

Garland is still in charge. He makes the final decisions. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #41

Nope. At this point he can only nix SCounsel indictments & must say so. He can't indict, only SC. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #54

So now I'm thinking with Dipshit's popularity diminishing anyway Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #33

The DOJ doesn't indict Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #67

Did they look next to the golden toilet? I suspect great bathroom reading. Pepsidog Dec 2022 #18

maybe he was asked to get specific docs and took others and/or folders to create a diversion Blues Heron Dec 2022 #21

I think he shuffled documents into other folders willy-nilly FakeNoose Dec 2022 #25

THIS BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #27

I can imagine Trump doing something like this, don't laugh he is capable of doing this. fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #39

That probably happened too BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #45

true. but even 'copies' must be scrupulously managed stopdiggin Dec 2022 #80

Of course BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #81

More likely, imo relayerbob Dec 2022 #26

Did the diplomatic pouch look like a cheap knock-off purse by any chance? rubbersole Dec 2022 #40

Possibly relayerbob Dec 2022 #46

Did the purse say Ivanka/made in China? rubbersole Dec 2022 #61

Why not make copies and put the originals back in the folder? fightforfreedom Dec 2022 #43

Why bother? He thought no one would look. relayerbob Dec 2022 #47

Trump could also be the fall guy. hay rick Dec 2022 #42

Hahahahahahahahaha relayerbob Dec 2022 #48

Yep. Con man gets conned. Captain Zero Dec 2022 #51

This was less an act of 'hoarding' (IMHO) than . . . peggysue2 Dec 2022 #84