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SomewhereInTheMiddle

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20. "Are you now, or have you ever been ...

Tue Dec 13, 2022, 08:38 AM

Dec 2022

... a member of the Oath Keepers?"

This is not the look the Democratic Party wants to adopt.

Being vigilant for hate crimes and other illegal actions is essential. But policing thoughts and associations is problematic. Law enforcement officials associating with convicted criminals is something that can and should be tracked. LE officers being members of legal, though repugnant, organizations is a red flag, but not in itself grounds for dismissal.

In large part because different people define repugnant in different ways. We think of racist, fascist organizations calling for the overthrow of the current governmental system as bad. Other people think belonging to the ACLU, or GLAAD, or the Church of the Pastafarians are worse.

In order for them to not get to fire the people we agree with, we don't get to get to fire the people they agree with. There is also that pesky Bill of Rights and its guarantees of free speech and free assembly.

Watch them. And the minute they cross the legal line, take them down and prosecute them. But that is as far as we can go.

Or so it seems to me.

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DHS infiltrated by hundreds of Oath Keepers [View all] Model35mech Dec 2022 OP

Holy crap. Not good news. Makes one wonder how many are in... brush Dec 2022 #1

Or the DOJ, FBI, CIA? triron Dec 2022 #37

Thats like saying snakes infiltrated the reptile house quakerboy Dec 2022 #2

Additionally, there's a reason DHS weas created from thin air. jaxexpat Dec 2022 #12

+1 orangecrush Dec 2022 #16

✔️ msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #25

300 out of 250,000. Have a little perspective here. DHS is huge. bullimiami Dec 2022 #3

I also wonder what grade level they're at. Or if they're stilll working there. COL Mustard Dec 2022 #7

Thank you. whathehell Dec 2022 #8

It is WAY more than 300 Cosmocat Dec 2022 #9

You don't need a lot of moles to leak inside information to the storm troopers erronis Dec 2022 #13

I just have to wonder how low is that number? msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #26

Just going by what's reported. We can conjecture all day. bullimiami Dec 2022 #27

Of course.. it's an important post.The time frame provoked the question to me... msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #30

Oh 100%. That really should be getting a serious look. bullimiami Dec 2022 #34

300 rat turds in 25 pounds of flour aka-chmeee Dec 2022 #36

Some of us, many from rural red areas, have been warning Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2022 #4

100% Cosmocat Dec 2022 #10

In their early days, I used to see them "recruiting" at the Pentagon Metro stop COL Mustard Dec 2022 #5

RICO that organization. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #6

the the name should just be changed to Crazyleftie Dec 2022 #11

You could swap DHS with DOD pretty easily. erronis Dec 2022 #14

DHS most likely needs a serious overhaul. Issues are different now than after 9/11. Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #15

Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done until they violate laws. 3Hotdogs Dec 2022 #17

That's funny NJCher Dec 2022 #18

"Are you now, or have you ever been ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Dec 2022 #20

When I began my career as a N.J. teacher, we had to sign loyalty oaths. 3Hotdogs Dec 2022 #21

I kinda get what you're saying Farmer-Rick Dec 2022 #31

Those Commies who committed violent acts were held accountable Farmer-Rick Dec 2022 #32

ACAB. AntivaxHunters Dec 2022 #19

I pointed out in a previous post, that the leaked list is EIGHT WEARS OLD! 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #22

+1 dalton99a Dec 2022 #29

Yea, some people act as if the Oath Kepers are just forming a country club Farmer-Rick Dec 2022 #33

I have been screaming about this for years. Organizations like this Scalded Nun Dec 2022 #23

Many government jobs have veterans preference IronLionZion Dec 2022 #24

Unreformable. Abolish it all. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #28

IMO, first, desigate legally, the proud boys and others "domestic terrorist groups" Prairie_Seagull Dec 2022 #35