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55. If there was ever an issue that Democrats need public support to pursue their agend, it is this one.

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #42)

Wed Dec 14, 2022, 01:30 PM

Dec 2022

You only get that by laying a foundation on a public level.

They need to control the framing on this from the start.

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Not that I'm happy about the solution to the alarming number of undocumented immigrants [View all] Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 OP

1.No there isn't. 2. Show it to who? 3. They live in poverty Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #1

Yes there is. Illegal immigration is a two billion dollar industry. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #5

Nothing in that article says they are being told the Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #8

Clearly thousands a day are crossing successfully MichMan Dec 2022 #9

Made it and open borders are two entirely different things. Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #12

Pretty difficult to convince people border is closed and not to come MichMan Dec 2022 #18

Look at this video and watch the thousands that tried to cross YESTERDAY Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #11

New York Post, seriously? nt Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #13

I saw it on the regular news last night. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #23

None of what you've posted supports your statement Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #45

I don't think you're trying hard enough. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #46

You made a statement that you can't support and I'm Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #47

I have heard this said many times on the news. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #48

And clearly inthewind21 Dec 2022 #49

Except it's not a given. It's a Republican talking point. Phoenix61 Dec 2022 #52

It doesn't help that Republicans are broadcasting to the world if they think the border is open Walleye Dec 2022 #2

I'd prefer the relative ethical equanimity of most of the "illegals" over most Trumpers any day lambchopp59 Dec 2022 #3

From my understanding, only 1 in 5 asylum petitions are approved MichMan Dec 2022 #4

Finally. Someone who gets it. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #6

Asylum Data NowISeetheLight Dec 2022 #40

the other 80% don't get deported. Add to the hundreds of thousands that bypass the filing procedure BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #59

The solution is to Bettie Dec 2022 #66

so much of the hiring is done at the small bus level..mom and pop restaurants BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2022 #69

This MichMan Dec 2022 #72

I agree with your assessment. Have written to Biden about the need to be public on this Raven123 Dec 2022 #7

unemployment is still low jcgoldie Dec 2022 #10

AND, I heard a report that said that part of our inflation problem Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #14

That sounds like a marketing campaign & our side doesn't do marketing. CrispyQ Dec 2022 #15

+1 Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #19

+1 n/t area51 Dec 2022 #58

1) There is a group out there that is telling these people that the border is open. Mariana Dec 2022 #16

Yes. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #20

Their family, friends, and neighbors that crossed successfully and called home to let everyone know. MichMan Dec 2022 #21

There might be some truth to it. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #28

Alarming number? treestar Dec 2022 #17

It's a photo op that requires Dems to outline how we're going to Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #24

Stop inthewind21 Dec 2022 #50

Right. So I prove to you that they're going to use this issue against us, Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #54

You inthewind21 Dec 2022 #63

Right. Listen to yourself Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #64

Republicans are going to use everything, true and false treestar Dec 2022 #70

Photos is of border patrol detaining them treestar Dec 2022 #67

Is Expensive NowISeetheLight Dec 2022 #43

right wingers want to think that treestar Dec 2022 #68

Maybe GOP deep pockets are funding a campaign telling and helping immigriants Hotler Dec 2022 #22

I wouldn't doubt it. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #25

There are 10 million empty job positions in the US NickB79 Dec 2022 #26

Agreed. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #29

Not a chance, sadly NickB79 Dec 2022 #37

Helps me to remember there is no solution and the problem will get worse Hortensis Dec 2022 #27

Thank you. This is the root cause, and not emphasized enough. +1! nt Pobeka Dec 2022 #44

What kind of solution do you want? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #30

Obviously, not looking to resolve this with less visibility. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #32

OK so... WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #35

We aren't going to find out what they're going to do, until we Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #39

Your two suggestions focus on education of Republicans and the wider population. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #42

If there was ever an issue that Democrats need public support to pursue their agend, it is this one. Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #55

The easy & more effective solution is to fine the businesses that hire undocumented workers. CrispyQ Dec 2022 #31

Sadly, many of them live secretive lives, because they fear Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #33

Many apply with false Social Security numbers ripcord Dec 2022 #34

And then deport everyone working illegally? MichMan Dec 2022 #36

Well okay then. CrispyQ Dec 2022 #41

Well inthewind21 Dec 2022 #51

Yeah, the corporations are always off the hook. CrispyQ Dec 2022 #61

DING DING DING inthewind21 Dec 2022 #53

They are coming here for work, make it undesirable to hire undocumented workers. I doc03 Dec 2022 #38

How is it affecting life in your neighborhood? hunter Dec 2022 #56

Given we are recovering from a global pandemic ismnotwasm Dec 2022 #57

Root cause analysis GusBob Dec 2022 #60

How long do you think that will take ? MichMan Dec 2022 #62

People inthewind21 Dec 2022 #65

Add this:Heavily Punish those who are hiring these undocumented persons to work yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #71

The government should send in decoys, with or without fake documents to apply for jobs MichMan Dec 2022 #73