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usonian

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22. Some recent history to peruse.
Wed Dec 21, 2022, 01:33 PM
Dec 2022
“Democracy in Crisis: We’ve Been Headed Here for Decades.” Part 1of 8
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/6/2044226/-America-2021-The-Good-the-Bad-the-Ugly
Read all 8 to get the "plan" in detail.
This is all a Russian plan. Started years ago.
https://pastebin.com/raw/evbnN5y7

snippets: (article is mine/opinion)
While legislators and DOJ investigate a failed coup attempt at the Capitol, a successful coup has overtaken the USSC, which is dismantling the Constitution in an effort concerted with right-wing domestic terrorists, the GOP, oligarchs, Christian Nationalists and others, a Mitchavillian (!) scheme that follows the Russian strategy to divide and destroy the United States:

Simply put, Normalize hate and violence. Stochastic terrorism. Bring down elected government and democratic processes. This was also seen in 30’s Germany,

We are in a state of emergency, and are today divided into slave and free states.

The suspected instigator and supporter, Russia, has proven itself to be a third-rate power, relying on agents within the U.S. who sabotage the U.S. with acts of terrorism, insurrection and sedition, a second civil war.

Pieces of the puzzle fit perfectly. They involve: The RW shift from issues to outright terrorism and Russian messaging, Russia’s dependence on oil, their State-Adopted Religion and white dominance, long-term plans to annex Ukraine, divisive “bot” posts on social media, a major news outlet praising Putin, sponsorship of NRA to encourage mob rule, fear and domestic terrorism over constitutional government. (more detail below)

HOW DO WE KNOW THIS?

When you start with the premise that Russia has instigated a campaign of disruption in the U.S. to bolster its aims, ALL the pieces fit together perfectly.

1. The conservative movement took a hard swing right from its Limbaugh days of conservative issues and hate to pure hate and destruction. This coincides with the breakup of the Soviet Union. Anti-Soviet messaging ceased.

2. Russia’s economy is extremely oil-dependent. Oil interests control many legislators, and reap massive subsidies and favors.

3. Russia is an Orthodox “Christian in name only”, mostly white state. The church blesses nuclear warheads and Putin has declared his intention to expand his White Christian Nationalism.

4. Putin wants Ukraine. Arguably, that is the cause of his interference in the 2015 election to install an asset as president and weaken NATO, effectively delivering him Ukraine.

5. Bots spread lies and divisive messages to get Americans to fight one another.

6. A major news outlet repeatedly praises Putin, when there’s nothing apparent to gain by doing so. On the surface, anyway.

7. Russia financed and infiltrated the NRA with the goal of replacing constitutional government with mob rule, and domestic terrorism.

8. It is the M.O. of fiends to get people to believe in causes that are against their own best interest.

9. And yet! When a dictator takes power, their beloved “freedom fighters” become their biggest threat, so AWAY WITH YOUR GUNS. Courts that destroyed constitutional law to put them in place become useless baggage, so SAY GOODBYE.

10. The abortion issue is just the first volley. They have others at the ready, and are working top-down and bottom-up to destroy constitutional rights, the constitution and the country, and hand it over.

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Why does MAGA hate Ukraine and love Russia? [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2022 OP
They hate most Americans. Turbineguy Dec 2022 #1
Because the Big Loser is friendly to Russia, and vlyons Dec 2022 #2
Because Russian psyops tell them to. temporary311 Dec 2022 #3
This!👆 SheltieLover Dec 2022 #7
Yes, this times 1000 Ohioboy Dec 2022 #13
I agree. Midnight Writer Dec 2022 #25
And, a whole bunch of them are in Russia's pockets. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #26
TFG taught them that Putin good, USA bad. zuul Dec 2022 #4
Yup, psyops and tfg and Faux Noise. grumpyduck Dec 2022 #9
They hate us for our freedom. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #5
Ha ha, good one. Sky Jewels Dec 2022 #46
Because Zelenskyy would not lie for the slob SheltieLover Dec 2022 #6
That's definitely a huge part of it. nt GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #27
And the fact that the slob & his wife are ruskie assets! SheltieLover Dec 2022 #35
As are a whole bunch of Congressional and Senatorial Republicans. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #40
They hate america too. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #8
Because they owe Russia Joe Cool Dec 2022 #10
Most of them get their news from fox news and facebook jcgoldie Dec 2022 #11
They can't think for themselves, they just do as they're told. Meadowoak Dec 2022 #12
Because TFG likes Putin. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #14
Kleptocrats of a feather. moondust Dec 2022 #15
Trump gulliver Dec 2022 #16
Because the entire movement is about a single person who is beholden to Russia. NT Bleacher Creature Dec 2022 #17
Need to go a level lower. They'll eat whatever shit they're fed by GOP. Once Dump is gone, kysrsoze Dec 2022 #18
They hate democracy liberal N proud Dec 2022 #19
Because Russian troll farms hit RW sites hard D_Master81 Dec 2022 #20
Pedophilia Cartoonist Dec 2022 #21
Some recent history to peruse. usonian Dec 2022 #22
Putin is anti gay, pro fundamentalist christian, anti tolerance. Tomconroy Dec 2022 #23
Trump has led them down an ever-narrowing hallway... dchill Dec 2022 #24
and to add to the list gohuskies Dec 2022 #30
It will be hard, but we must try. dchill Dec 2022 #31
Axis. I think a large portion of America did at least secretly side with Hitler ColinC Dec 2022 #28
Which tells us this: never keep a diary! dchill Dec 2022 #33
They share core principles: white supremacy and hatred of LGBTQ+ enough Dec 2022 #29
Because it's proven that Russia helps them cheat. Karadeniz Dec 2022 #32
MAGAts like bullies, not underdogs. They just do not see things the way we do. DFW Dec 2022 #34
Because something is seriously wrong with them. nt chowder66 Dec 2022 #36
Because 50% of Americans bluestarone Dec 2022 #37
Because Russian bots/fake accounts are MAGA Chakaconcarne Dec 2022 #38
They hate Ukraine because they think Biden is operating bio labs there and Hunter is covering it up Runningdawg Dec 2022 #39
You have no idea what a powerful question that is.. and how the answer is almost too scary Peacetrain Dec 2022 #41
It's not that they hate Ukraine and love Russia. Demanchor Dec 2022 #42
MAGA thinks ("thinks") that frogmarch Dec 2022 #43
Bc populists will support anything that will propogate their racism and antisemitism FlyingPiggy Dec 2022 #44
RussiaFascist Nazis.. Ukraine Cha Dec 2022 #45
They have been for Russia taking Ukrane since at least the Feb 2014 invasion. mackdaddy Dec 2022 #47
Because they're fucked in the head. n/t LuckyCharms Dec 2022 #48
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