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Hortensis

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161. Right. But unfortunately the misogyny mined and turned into

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #160)

Fri Dec 23, 2022, 10:51 PM

Dec 2022

the "evil witch" persona wasn't just RW.

As for "her baggage," it wasn't real. It was RW deceits manufactured over 30 years of RW swiftboating and schlepped around by them, and much of the MSM, wherever she went.

How awful that people are still under the infuence and still haven't noticed that 30 years of fake swiftboating "investigations" never turned up anything the Republicans could have her charged for. Does anyone doubt they would have prosecuted if they had even a fair chance of "locking her up!"?

That's how powerful lies repeatedly constantly can become. Especially when oppositional factions on both right and left double-team their "dishonest Hillary" themes to take out our candidate.

Sigh. Off to bed. Hopefully the power won't go out like it did last night. A wind-blasted but nevertheless balmy 10 degrees compared to what so many DUers have.

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OMG after watching HRC on CNN... We HAVE to get her elected [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 OP

She's not running, and it isn't interested. It's insulting to insinuate tritsofme Dec 2022 #1

+1 enough Dec 2022 #2

Hilary is #1 for me..... Dan Dec 2022 #7

Me too. 2016 election was corrupted. triron Dec 2022 #101

Talk about insulting Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #11

Your OP says it is a RW trap to not support a non-existent campaign for a non-existent candidate. tritsofme Dec 2022 #38

What? The whole denigration of Hillary WAS a right wing trope Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #58

What in the world are you talking about? Hillary isn't running, doesn't want to run. Biden is. tritsofme Dec 2022 #60

Wow. That there's no acknowledgement is just plain weird Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #67

I would say it's the norm karynnj Dec 2022 #94

Yes life isn't always fair. Great mantra Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #69

No it wasn't. The left -Greens - and others cost us the election. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #130

So you honestly think there was unmitigated enthuusiasm Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #157

The RW HATED her as far back as 1992. They HATED her as First Lady. Their HATE continues msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #163

You're right that she isn't interested iemanja Dec 2022 #34

No doubt, that's why I supported her presidential ambitions for over a decade. tritsofme Dec 2022 #41

I agree iemanja Dec 2022 #56

Do you blame her? With luke warm base support? I'd say Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #72

"With lukewarm base support?" betsuni Dec 2022 #77

That's really sad. All I know is totally anecdotal.. from Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #79

What's really sad? betsuni Dec 2022 #80

That a 1 million % able, experienced person didn't Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #81

Wasn't Republicans targeting left-leaning voters, especially young ones. betsuni Dec 2022 #88

Spot on! sheshe2 Dec 2022 #108

Great post LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #114

+1000 (eom) Malmsy Dec 2022 #156

Some of your posts in this thread seem very contrary to your OP. MrsCoffee Dec 2022 #165

Think it's called communication? You posit something and rhen Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #166

Like that .! Kind put down lol Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #71

Is it insulting to warn not to fall for the far-LEFT deceits Hortensis Dec 2022 #137

+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #147

Lovely photo !!! I'm a strict believer in reengineering. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #158

Yes, her image and that of the Democratic Party certainly were. Hortensis Dec 2022 #159

Yes. You have to have firm confidence and courage Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #160

Right. But unfortunately the misogyny mined and turned into Hortensis Dec 2022 #161

She is amazing, isn't she? But we lost our chance with her. Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #3

Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #5

Why? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #13

Because she shows no inclination to put herself through that again. And who can Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #92

She's made it very clear many times that she is no longer interested Ocelot II Dec 2022 #4

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She wasn't robbed. milestogo Dec 2022 #9

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+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #17

+1 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #73

So are you suggesting we abandon Biden and or Harris in 2024? onenote Dec 2022 #8

Jeez Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #16

That's not much of an answer. onenote Dec 2022 #18

So what? Seriously, why not. Would definitely show Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #75

Biden is the best presidentof my lifetime. He will be reelected. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #129

No Karma13612 Dec 2022 #10

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Have always thought if you were running and older Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #20

Not sure why her moment has passed. Why? I would venture a Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #15

Do you oppose Biden's reelection bid then? iemanja Dec 2022 #36

Yet a big part of her defeat was that young whippersnapper, "Bernie!!" Sparkly Dec 2022 #121

+1 betsuni Dec 2022 #124

Bernie and Hillary Karma13612 Dec 2022 #126

Like " young whippersnapper" Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #162

Ship sailed Trenzalore Dec 2022 #19

We can do anything we want to do, no? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #22

and lose yes Trenzalore Dec 2022 #25

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80 is 80 Trenzalore Dec 2022 #40

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I'd be a terrible President Trenzalore Dec 2022 #47

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Seriously... Who is younger in our party that could be Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #83

Gavin Newsom A HERETIC I AM Dec 2022 #84

Yes. Newsom! But operative words are "if WE just looked Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #85

No we need electable candidates in the General. Newsome would lose needed Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #141

She lost and I think would lose again. You always run the incumbent if you want to to win. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #131

Don't you think it's the individual? Jeez my mom is 97 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #82

70 is not the new 50. former9thward Dec 2022 #45

Speaking as someone in their mid 40s Trenzalore Dec 2022 #48

She lost in 16 and I doubt very much she would win at this point. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #138

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Don't forget just because you like someone it automatically means you Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #164

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Ah. Our major problem . We can't unite and say absolutely Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #33

The growing demographic within the democratic party is voters under 30 Trenzalore Dec 2022 #35

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My mom is 75 and retired 10 years ago Trenzalore Dec 2022 #37

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I'm in my mid -40s Trenzalore Dec 2022 #46

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I would love to support a younger person! Guess they Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #78

Sure if we want to lose the General. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #133

Do you hear yourself? iemanja Dec 2022 #30

You suggest she challenge Biden Trenzalore Dec 2022 #39

No, I'm addressing the point that she's too old iemanja Dec 2022 #55

I personally don't think Biden should run again Trenzalore Dec 2022 #57

Incumbents have a advantage and Biden has done a great job legislatively. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #136

She would make a great Secretary General Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #21

Wonder ( should know) what her and Bill's everday Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #24

Right now as a practical manner I suppose Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #28

Reminds me of an interview on NPR of a career IT manager Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #52

Absolutely! iemanja Dec 2022 #32

She will not run again. Yes she won the popular vote, so did Al Gore. Autumn Dec 2022 #23

Run him! We can't just abandon these great people! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #26

Do you know how old either would be if they did run and somehow won?? No. Just no Autumn Dec 2022 #49

Yup. 80 is the new 60. I get it, no worries. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #53

No, 80 is not the new 60. There come a time when the younger generations have to step in. Autumn Dec 2022 #54

Agree with that too. Why I think an older experienced Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #59

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Absolutely, positively the best post I've ever read on DU! nt Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #65

Actually when you mention, global warming, John Kerry's current role is an example of what karynnj Dec 2022 #95

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Indeed inthewind21 Dec 2022 #98

She would turn 85yo in her first term if she ran and won in 2028. And no, 80 is not the new 60. Celerity Dec 2022 #99

Had to refresh my memory with generation chart Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #102

I am a late 1996-born (missed being Gern Z by 2 and half months) Zillennial (micro gen born 1993-98) Celerity Dec 2022 #104

Hillary would be 80 at end of term 2028 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #103

Biden's VERY likely running in 2024, Harris will be his VP, so 2028 is the soonest Hillary could run Celerity Dec 2022 #105

Right. It would be if Biden didn't run Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #106

However, if Biden does not run, it will almost surely be because of health karynnj Dec 2022 #109

Funny you don't even mention approval numbers. Just because Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #110

Sorry, I don't know the approval numbers you are referring to karynnj Dec 2022 #111

No problem. It's just that latest polls say 70% of US Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #112

I don't trust polls this far out. There is also a problem with this vs a head to head poll karynnj Dec 2022 #115

Yay! You won. Knew someone would say that!/ - that Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #117

Give me a break karynnj Dec 2022 #127

Sorry, no snark to you! it was just too easy to point out since it inevitably happens. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #128

My thoughts karynnj Dec 2022 #142

I hear ya... But last poll I saw had JB lagging behind Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #150

I don't believe polls . The midterm is my poll. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #132

Are you serious? Me and Lake Arenal were the very first Biden supporters Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #155

Yeah no. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #135

We didn't deserve her as President iemanja Dec 2022 #29

Pretty sure we tried this - twice. Both times didn't go too well for her. Beautiful Disaster Dec 2022 #62

Yup. Without our full support. But it's obvious that will Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #68

She would have been great. But here we are. Demanchor Dec 2022 #63

I guess. Of course I will support him if he's our nominee! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #70

I think she's done. KentuckyWoman Dec 2022 #64

Just curious. Who is the future wealth? In your opinion? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #66

How about, No, because she doesn't want to run. Is that "RW"? brooklynite Dec 2022 #74

How many politician play coy and say that? Like most all? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #76

A few...along with all the candidates who DON'T want to. brooklynite Dec 2022 #91

I was on team HRC from the get go. Would have no problem picking that torch up again. FlyingPiggy Dec 2022 #86

I'm convinced that the time was 2008 Polybius Dec 2022 #87

no she remains the perfect person to generate gop votes dembotoz Dec 2022 #89

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They hated her when Bill was president. It only got worse. She was the best First Lady ever. Autumn Dec 2022 #100

You may underestimate their hate? I have a Trumper Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #122

Do you ever wonder why Biden didn't pick her as his VP? She was certainly more qualified Autumn Dec 2022 #140

Age? Wanted to pair up with younger person? Thought Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #154

While I understand your passion on this, it won't happen karynnj Dec 2022 #93

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One exception ! I am. I'm suggesting she be our nominee Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #116

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Ya, it's not gonna happen. We can't turn the clock back Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #148

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Your 5:00 wish is my command Chin Music! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #152

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Not sure about him keeping Harris. He probably will Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #107

Dropping Harris would be bad optics, particularly to the most loyal part of the Democratic base. marmar Dec 2022 #169

Totally agree. Dropping her would have a VERY negative down side. nt Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #170

'Hillary Clinton was right all along' about Donald Trump: MSNBC's Mika LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #113

In 2015! Long before impeachment Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #118

Ugh, all the face palms. betsuni Dec 2022 #119

I always wonder .. chicken and egg thing... What comes Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2022 #120

Hillary's approval ratings reached the high 60s when senator and SoS, 17 years most admired woman betsuni Dec 2022 #123

Well....if we're going to try nominating somebody that doesn't want to run... Captain Stern Dec 2022 #125

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I would really like to see her and her to-do list in a big to-do position. Hortensis Dec 2022 #134

She would have been a great president. I don't know that she's interested and I Vinca Dec 2022 #145

No. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #146

What the fuck. themaguffin Dec 2022 #151

It's not a "right-wing trap" to realize that ship has sailed. marmar Dec 2022 #168

That ship has sailed, sorry. We need to look forward. Tarc Dec 2022 #171