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105. At this point, such a poll has relevance going for it

Sun Jan 29, 2023, 01:41 AM

Jan 2023

About as much relevance as the 2018 mid-season standings of the college soccer teams of southern Latvia.

In December 2019, a Republican strategist asked me (why me, I have no idea) who I thought the Democratic nominee would be in 2020. I said Joe Biden, who was polling around 3% at the time. She was very surprised, and asked, based on what? I said all others would stumble on one of several factors: recognition, funding, position rigidity, timing, etc. I said Biden would be the last man standing, and he‘d win a huge margin, at least in the popular vote. I felt it was a no-brainer, even if he was not my personal preference. And sure enough, it was. At the time, I guess most people would have thought I was crazy, but I live in Europe, and do not live on a steady diet of American media. Maybe that helped.

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Pete Buttigieg stomps(!!!???) Biden in first primary polling [View all] applegrove Jan 2023 OP

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Ugh, what violent imagery. Croney Jan 2023 #2

Buttigieg did very poorly with blacks... lame54 Jan 2023 #3

Seems to be similar issue Bernie has. honest.abe Jan 2023 #11

The moe must be over 2.5 meaning the lead is dsc Jan 2023 #4

It's not a good look for an incumbent president. tritsofme Jan 2023 #6

Biden is our best bet to keep the Presidency at this point. honest.abe Jan 2023 #10

I agree. tritsofme Jan 2023 #18

I'm not sure New Hampshire is reflective of anything. W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #23

It's one poll, doesn't really mean anything. tritsofme Jan 2023 #28

You do realize that conventionally... W_HAMILTON Jan 2023 #36

Sure, it hasn't been since 1984 that we've even had serious discussions tritsofme Jan 2023 #37

If SC is the first primary Biden will win that one easlily... if the primary was now. honest.abe Jan 2023 #25

He is running and no one else can win in 24. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #92

You are probably right.. honest.abe Jan 2023 #95

I find it BS. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #79

Indeed. Pete didnt even get 1/4 of the votes. honest.abe Jan 2023 #7

M.O.E. is +/-3.3 per cent, so the lead is a wee bit outside it, but yes, not a stomping at all Celerity Jan 2023 #65

Biden will run for 2024. LakeArenal Jan 2023 #5

He won't stand a chance in the primary or the GE. Biden is running. Autumn Jan 2023 #8

the biggest surprise was that of all listed, AOC has the highest net favourability, and Hillary the Celerity Jan 2023 #69

My biggest surprise is seeing Warnock's name on the list. (nt) old as dirt Jan 2023 #76

Wow. and AOC is in line for the #2 spot on the oversight committee. Autumn Jan 2023 #85

Agree on Polis, and I feel the same for Pritzker and Shapiro, all would be +40, +50 net if they Celerity Jan 2023 #88

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Is Hillary in the poll? I didn't see her mentioned in the article but I doubt she will run again Autumn Feb 2023 #110

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That poll, early as it may be, accurately reflects my feelings calguy Jan 2023 #9

Yep! patricia92243 Jan 2023 #16

I'm on the "younger, new leadership" AkFemDem Jan 2023 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #26

your maths are off, the primary season campaigning starts in way less than a year (if Biden runs no Celerity Jan 2023 #68

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Anyone who challenges Biden is dead to Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #93

I'm in that camp too but afraid to say Tree Lady Jan 2023 #55

The crazy middle? I suggest you look Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #94

I agree, I'm not onboard with Pete Raine Jan 2023 #61

If you thing Buttigieg is a lightweight, you really need to check your scales. Celerity Jan 2023 #67

maybe so but it's jmo of him. 🤔 nt Raine Jan 2023 #73

Well my opinion is that is utter bollocks. He is extremely gifted as both an intellectual and as Celerity Jan 2023 #74

OK so be it. I really like him but I just don't think he's ready to be President yet Raine Jan 2023 #77

You do know Pete is not liberal right? Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #96

I never use the term liberal for most Dems. For me & most of the world liberal means centre right. Celerity Jan 2023 #104

I am not against LGBTQ community, Dirty Socialist Jan 2023 #12

I agree, I don't really think a gay could be elected nationally. I will support Biden but I doc03 Jan 2023 #31

I am concerned too Dirty Socialist Jan 2023 #34

Why would a gay person even run? FreeState Jan 2023 #54

It has nothing to do with what we think about him being gay. I will vote for him doc03 Jan 2023 #56

Why do you think that? FreeState Jan 2023 #89

I live in Ohio I guess people in the rest of country aren't doc03 Jan 2023 #90

We have to vote for someone who can win. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #44

Seriously, 'a gay' I remember when "a black" could not be elected, although I thought Obama ... cliffside Jan 2023 #63

I agree that 'being gay' shouldn't be a consideration calguy Jan 2023 #84

Biden is sharp and we have a VP. We just Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #97

I still think Biden has an insider's and old timer's 411/dna on being in politics applegrove Jan 2023 #13

Secretary Pete is mostly concerned with Secretary Pete Kennah Jan 2023 #14

And you base this off what? Buttigieg is not running if Biden is, and Pete has done a great job as Celerity Jan 2023 #62

He's doing well as DOT Sec, but as a Presidential candidate, he would be among my last choices Kennah Jan 2023 #106

Show me these articles please, as I was very much involved in the 2020 primaries, and there was a Celerity Jan 2023 #107

How dare you post 'stomps Biden'. Kingofalldems Jan 2023 #15

I will put exclamation points to note the silly title. applegrove Jan 2023 #19

That's literally the article title AkFemDem Jan 2023 #20

Article is disrespectful to President Biden. Kingofalldems Jan 2023 #21

Lots of misleading article titles out there Dirty Socialist Jan 2023 #24

Pete is more likely to run for and win Governor of Michigan as Gretchen is term limited Freethinker65 Jan 2023 #22

Im am thinking more and more that Gretchen is going to run for Pres. honest.abe Jan 2023 #30

Whitmer has pledged to finish her 2nd term as governor DemocraticPatriot Jan 2023 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #32

I thought he is from Indiana.... Lovie777 Jan 2023 #33

He moved to Traverse City, Michigan Freethinker65 Jan 2023 #35

He is not from Michigan. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #81

He moved to Traverse City xmas74 Jan 2023 #101

None of Those Polled Can Get to 270 EVs Except Biden Indykatie Jan 2023 #27

Oh it is... that's Great! TY Cha Jan 2023 #59

Totally agree Joe is the safest bet Cosmocat Jan 2023 #83

Here we go again ..... Lovie777 Jan 2023 #29

Dance puppets. Behind the Aegis Jan 2023 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #46

You missed the point. Behind the Aegis Jan 2023 #48

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Thanks for 'splainin Behind the Aegis Jan 2023 #51

What garbage. Is Buttigieg running or Warren or Sanders? Just another pollster trying to stir up JohnSJ Jan 2023 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2023 #41

Exactly Chin. Must be a slow day JohnSJ Jan 2023 #43

The main thing that is disappointing for me was of all the articles on the poll, the OP picked the Celerity Jan 2023 #70

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I think Biden has been good overall, but he's hopefully going to be 82 in 2 years. Renew Deal Jan 2023 #40

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When is OK to discuss this? Renew Deal Jan 2023 #53

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+1 nt cliffside Jan 2023 #64

Yes he does. He knows how important it is. Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #82

Love Pete and hope to see it someday miss-nasty Jan 2023 #45

I love Pete Buttigieg, but this is ridiculous. Just A Box Of Rain Jan 2023 #47

Pete is a great guy.... naturally likable. WarGamer Jan 2023 #50

A New Hampshire poll? In Jan 2023? mcar Jan 2023 #52

The primary season starts in way less than a year (that said I fully expect Biden to run and win Celerity Jan 2023 #66

Yes, I'm aware of that mcar Jan 2023 #86

agree treestar Jan 2023 #87

Would love Pete as Prez budkin Jan 2023 #60

Post removed Post removed Jan 2023 #98

Both are great. If Biden runs for reelection, I am voting for him. FlyingPiggy Jan 2023 #75

Biden will run and polls as we now know Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #78

Pete is young, charismatic, good-looking, intelligent and self-confident NickB79 Jan 2023 #91

You are living in the past. Pete is not Demsrule86 Jan 2023 #99

Then who do we run? NickB79 Jan 2023 #102

NO flamingdem Jan 2023 #103

At this point, such a poll has relevance going for it DFW Jan 2023 #105

quick way to lose the executive branch to the R's. dsp3000 Feb 2023 #109

the methodology is curiously missing from this poll bigtree Feb 2023 #112