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42. Read the article... the numbers come from Ukraine.

Thu Feb 9, 2023, 11:25 PM

Feb 2023

For those that are distrustful of the link... as am I... it's all corroborated and backed up by reliable sources including the Ukrainian Gov't itse

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/08/ukraine-russia-counteroffensive-abrams-tanks-putin-war/

The Ukrainian military estimates that Russia already has 1,800 tanks, 3,950 armored vehicles, 2,700 artillery systems, 810 Soviet-era multiple-rocket-launch systems such as Grad and Smerch, 400 fighter jets, and 300 helicopters ready for the new wave of attacks, the official said.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] WarGamer Feb 2023 OP

Jeebus God. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #1

Verification is the way, more often than not. Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #2

Where are they getting 500K men from? Wicked Blue Feb 2023 #3

Maybe the same place Hitler got them: junior high schools. Or the equivalent. raging moderate Feb 2023 #4

Not volunteers, that's for sure. milestogo Feb 2023 #27

That's what Putin said they'd be recruiting. Igel Feb 2023 #30

This could be a tactical reaction to the Abrams and Leopard tank threat Shermann Feb 2023 #5

Yeah they don't want to tussle with those underpants Feb 2023 #7

It seems right on time meteorlogically to me Model35mech Feb 2023 #19

One small detail with last year FirefighterJo Feb 2023 #6

More genius strategy acc to Trump. keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #20

I don't think we can stand by and watch Ukraine get crushed Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #8

I don't think we ARE standing by watching... WarGamer Feb 2023 #44

I get that we are providing billions in weapons Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #9

The basis of the story appears to be reputable & the source is Ukraine itself a week ago? NullTuples Feb 2023 #10

A few A10 Warthogs would really be useful. CentralMass Feb 2023 #11

so would a few tactical nukes... lapfog_1 Feb 2023 #13

Don't know about that. Igel Feb 2023 #31

It isn't going to happen. lapfog_1 Feb 2023 #36

Those are 30+ years old - the Air Force has wanted to get rid of them for years News Junkie Feb 2023 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author CentralMass Feb 2023 #71

There was a lot politics and lobbying in that decision. CentralMass Feb 2023 #72

"The Sun" is a sensationalist right-wing rag. All about the clicks, likes and views. DetlefK Feb 2023 #12

Removed that source from the OP... WarGamer Feb 2023 #45

Wow. Complete RW rag and you post it here. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #14

The story links to FP which is left leaning... enjoy WarGamer Feb 2023 #40

Watch them get wiped out and mowed down Mysterian Feb 2023 #15

Wait. These numbers sound insane. Russia has already started a draft Maraya1969 Feb 2023 #16

If true, somebody is assisting them. bluestarone Feb 2023 #17

The deathtraps are why on one had I have no problem with giving our tanks and Bradleys to the brewens Feb 2023 #18

theres a good chance russia doesnt have 1800 tanks left moonshinegnomie Feb 2023 #21

The Ukrainian Gov't provided those estimates WarGamer Feb 2023 #41

+1, uponit7771 Feb 2023 #75

This smells very dubious localroger Feb 2023 #22

Those numbers come from the Ukrainian Gov't WarGamer Feb 2023 #46

You cannot amass that many troops, artillery, and aircraft without the U.S. knowing about it. sdfernando Feb 2023 #23

Hard to say. Xolodno Feb 2023 #24

Really ? Which members ? CentralMass Feb 2023 #26

There's been some articles, but they don't get much tractions obviously. Xolodno Feb 2023 #28

Where are they comng from? ananda Feb 2023 #25

They've been pushing Ukraine back around Bakhmut. Igel Feb 2023 #32

Where in Almighty Hell would Russia get 1,800 tanks? Aristus Feb 2023 #29

Read the article... the numbers come from Ukraine. WarGamer Feb 2023 #42

where the hell did they get 500,000 people for this??? Takket Feb 2023 #33

500,000 Russians? HIMARS says "mmmm, yummy" NickB79 Feb 2023 #34

Bullshit. Putin cannot muster all of that. panader0 Feb 2023 #35

The SUN? Murdoch's rag? Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2023 #37

Here's a better source... FP is left leaning... endorsed HRC in 2016 WarGamer Feb 2023 #43

Thanks for the backup links Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2023 #50

And pedo gaetz wants to end all aid to Ukraine. I wonder what putler has on him? niyad Feb 2023 #38

If this were true it would represent 90% of Russia's military Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #39

I think Russia has run out of "waves" GenThePerservering Feb 2023 #48

Putin does not have the resources described in OP LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #49

Using Twitter as a Primary Source isn't very wise... WarGamer Feb 2023 #51

Do you really believe the numbers in the OP? That is cute and adorable LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #57

Using Twitter for source material is like using Wikipedia for Graduate level classes. WarGamer Feb 2023 #58

Do you ever tire of being WRONG? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #59

You're so predictable... WarGamer Feb 2023 #60

LOL. Thank you for the laughs LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #62

More tweets. WarGamer Feb 2023 #64

Again, thank you for the laughs LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #66

It's also in the NY Post, so it must be true Kennah Feb 2023 #52

It's based on quotes from Ukrainian Gov't officials. WarGamer Feb 2023 #53

No, I would say that both sides are engaged in propaganda Kennah Feb 2023 #54

So you think the Ukrainian Gov't is exaggerating the threat... WarGamer Feb 2023 #55

It's nuanced Kennah Feb 2023 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2023 #61

Russia's Massive Offensive LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #63

Who to believe, LMPV's random tweets or actual REAL sources. WarGamer Feb 2023 #65

Again, thank you for the laughs LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #67

And more tweets.... WarGamer Feb 2023 #73

Again, your posts are really funny LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #78

Just LOL... still arguing things that I didn't say. WarGamer Feb 2023 #80

So far, the Russians are taking very heavy casualties with little gain Kaleva Feb 2023 #68

I think most observers suspected as much... WarGamer Feb 2023 #74

You seem to favour information filtered via major newspaper outlets. Emrys Feb 2023 #69

Just saw this, retweeted from angry staffer jeffreyi Feb 2023 #76

This war of choice has damaged DECADES of Russian progress at building their country. WarGamer Feb 2023 #77

How many of the 500K troops will be properly trained? Poiuyt Feb 2023 #79