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In reply to the discussion: GAWD DAMN -This Florida shit is going too far - [View all]In It to Win It
(8,504 posts)59. I agree with
To me, it seems the youth vote in Florida seems to be much further to the left than most Democrats, which puts them at odds not only with most of Florida right now, but Democrats as well.
I think Florida Democrats are largely moderate, so they tend to put up relatively moderate candidates (2022 being the classic example of choosing a moderate in Charlie Crist over Nikki Fried). However, the more liberal young voters aren't going to show up for Charlie Crist. That isn't good for Democratic candidates in Florida because there is no room to sacrifice voters. Every single part of the Democratic coalition is needed in Florida. Democratic turnout is not that reliable IMO so therefore you can't afford to turnoff moderates to target more liberal voters and you can't afford to turn off liberal voters to target moderate voters. You need them all to have a sliver of a chance at winning.
It's another reason why I think Democrats as a whole should focus their efforts elsewhere in the nation until those on the left in Florida get their act together.
I think this will never happen without national Democrats. The Florida Democratic Party needs help, outside help. "Outside help" doesn't mean just showing up during the election season, which is what usually happens, and then going back to ignoring Florida afterwards. I'm of the opinion that if we wait for that to happen, Democrats will never win Florida again. Florida Republicans have year-round engagement. Florida Republicans have the support of the larger and broader Republican party. Florida Republicans remain well-funded for longer periods of time while Florida Democrats don't. The broader Republican party remains engaged in Florida while the broader Democratic party doesn't (and hasn't) IMO.
Democrats try to gain a foothold (adding constitutional amendments to re-enfranchise former felons, to end gerymandering, etc), we still end up with the short end of the stick even when we're successful.
I'm not one that thinks Florida is lost for a generation. I think Florida can be winnable again. As I've stated in a previous post, Florida has over 14 million voters. Only about 53% of them actually turned out. Ron DeSantis won Miami-Dade County in 2022, one of the big blue counties Democrats rely on for votes, but there was only around 47% turnout. With over 14 million voters, Ron DeSantis won re-election with 4.6 million votes.
My point in saying all of this is that there is room for growth, but that's only if the party is willing to invest and put in the time. I can't be the only Democrat in Florida that feels like the broader Party has largely abandoned us.
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Apparently so. The majority of voters wanted to put the evil dick-tator back into office
Sky Jewels
Feb 2023
#7
Not so. I'm blue in this autocratic state, but there is a growing number of registered youth that
ancianita
Feb 2023
#10
Still don't get how senior citizens in that state support idiots trying to make their lives more
SouthernDem4ever
Feb 2023
#80
The Republican retirees moving into the state far outnumber the up and coming youth.
Mariana
Feb 2023
#45
But they are kinda pissed that their tax money is going to subsidize costs of the developers.
Mariana
Feb 2023
#70
Yep, I get that. Local news present Villages' tax protests as influential, but they're really not.
ancianita
Feb 2023
#71
In one sense. But local coverage makes it look as if they'll sway the heavyweights, when they won't,
ancianita
Feb 2023
#85
I'm frustrated as hell. But I'm old and can only hope our young voters can see thru this crap. Not
allegorical oracle
Feb 2023
#17
+1, people don't understand how effective these dictator measures are even when MAGA doubles
uponit7771
Feb 2023
#78
The majority apparently only listens to FAUX NEWS. The cancer that has metastasized throughout.....
usaf-vet
Feb 2023
#47
fox is a decoy. not only is talk radio a bigger problem, it would be easy to fix. fox is part of the
certainot
Feb 2023
#81
No arguments from me other than we only have a weather radio in the house and when in the car....
usaf-vet
Feb 2023
#82
The majority of the voting age public that gets off their ass to actually vote, is fascist in FL.
spudspud
Feb 2023
#50
No, but cause red states like Florida, Texas, Missouri are dictatorships little they can do about it
uponit7771
Feb 2023
#74
I am lucky enough to have been raised in the Pittsburgh area during the Roberto years.
blue neen
Feb 2023
#2
Roberto Clemente was a far better baseball player than DeSantis could ever have been.
blue neen
Feb 2023
#8
Well, he sure can "model" the hell out of those 'white boots', can't he???
DemocraticPatriot
Feb 2023
#57
Those children will have sterile minds and know nothing but bigotry and hate
bucolic_frolic
Feb 2023
#9
No, they'll go find those books and read them. The FL literacy rate will probably rise over
ancianita
Feb 2023
#14
Let's hope that the children are smarter than the politicians, and I think they are.
erronis
Feb 2023
#15
That same Florida district banned hundreds of other books, including picture books
pnwmom
Feb 2023
#20
"Knots on a Counting Rope" is a book I read many times to my kids. It's very touching and
panader0
Feb 2023
#68
My recollection is that Florida was the most fervent state supporting the confederacy.
plimsoll
Feb 2023
#25
Yeah, can't have the kiddies finding out Grammaw and Grampaw were mean to baseball heroes
Warpy
Feb 2023
#38
Here's the list - 176 books are banned for school children in Duval County, FL
FakeNoose
Feb 2023
#64