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Kaleva

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68. So far, the Russians are taking very heavy casualties with little gain

Mon Feb 13, 2023, 06:46 AM

Feb 2023

Military experts, commenting on the actions of Russian soldiers in action,as observed by drones, are generally saying said troops are obviously poorly trained.

A bright side for the Ukrainians is that the fresh reserves haven't been forced to go to the front yet to contain Russian break throughs because there haven't been any. UKR is withdrawing here and there but in an orderly, planned manner to new defensive positions.

I have also yet to see any report suggesting that the Russians have gained air superiority.

The Russians window of opportunity is closing as the rainy season approaches.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] WarGamer Feb 2023 OP

Jeebus God. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #1

Verification is the way, more often than not. Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #2

Where are they getting 500K men from? Wicked Blue Feb 2023 #3

Maybe the same place Hitler got them: junior high schools. Or the equivalent. raging moderate Feb 2023 #4

Not volunteers, that's for sure. milestogo Feb 2023 #27

That's what Putin said they'd be recruiting. Igel Feb 2023 #30

This could be a tactical reaction to the Abrams and Leopard tank threat Shermann Feb 2023 #5

Yeah they don't want to tussle with those underpants Feb 2023 #7

It seems right on time meteorlogically to me Model35mech Feb 2023 #19

One small detail with last year FirefighterJo Feb 2023 #6

More genius strategy acc to Trump. keithbvadu2 Feb 2023 #20

I don't think we can stand by and watch Ukraine get crushed Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #8

I don't think we ARE standing by watching... WarGamer Feb 2023 #44

I get that we are providing billions in weapons Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Tetrachloride Feb 2023 #9

The basis of the story appears to be reputable & the source is Ukraine itself a week ago? NullTuples Feb 2023 #10

A few A10 Warthogs would really be useful. CentralMass Feb 2023 #11

so would a few tactical nukes... lapfog_1 Feb 2023 #13

Don't know about that. Igel Feb 2023 #31

It isn't going to happen. lapfog_1 Feb 2023 #36

Those are 30+ years old - the Air Force has wanted to get rid of them for years News Junkie Feb 2023 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author CentralMass Feb 2023 #71

There was a lot politics and lobbying in that decision. CentralMass Feb 2023 #72

"The Sun" is a sensationalist right-wing rag. All about the clicks, likes and views. DetlefK Feb 2023 #12

Removed that source from the OP... WarGamer Feb 2023 #45

Wow. Complete RW rag and you post it here. Kingofalldems Feb 2023 #14

The story links to FP which is left leaning... enjoy WarGamer Feb 2023 #40

Watch them get wiped out and mowed down Mysterian Feb 2023 #15

Wait. These numbers sound insane. Russia has already started a draft Maraya1969 Feb 2023 #16

If true, somebody is assisting them. bluestarone Feb 2023 #17

The deathtraps are why on one had I have no problem with giving our tanks and Bradleys to the brewens Feb 2023 #18

theres a good chance russia doesnt have 1800 tanks left moonshinegnomie Feb 2023 #21

The Ukrainian Gov't provided those estimates WarGamer Feb 2023 #41

+1, uponit7771 Feb 2023 #75

This smells very dubious localroger Feb 2023 #22

Those numbers come from the Ukrainian Gov't WarGamer Feb 2023 #46

You cannot amass that many troops, artillery, and aircraft without the U.S. knowing about it. sdfernando Feb 2023 #23

Hard to say. Xolodno Feb 2023 #24

Really ? Which members ? CentralMass Feb 2023 #26

There's been some articles, but they don't get much tractions obviously. Xolodno Feb 2023 #28

Where are they comng from? ananda Feb 2023 #25

They've been pushing Ukraine back around Bakhmut. Igel Feb 2023 #32

Where in Almighty Hell would Russia get 1,800 tanks? Aristus Feb 2023 #29

Read the article... the numbers come from Ukraine. WarGamer Feb 2023 #42

where the hell did they get 500,000 people for this??? Takket Feb 2023 #33

500,000 Russians? HIMARS says "mmmm, yummy" NickB79 Feb 2023 #34

Bullshit. Putin cannot muster all of that. panader0 Feb 2023 #35

The SUN? Murdoch's rag? Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2023 #37

Here's a better source... FP is left leaning... endorsed HRC in 2016 WarGamer Feb 2023 #43

Thanks for the backup links Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2023 #50

And pedo gaetz wants to end all aid to Ukraine. I wonder what putler has on him? niyad Feb 2023 #38

If this were true it would represent 90% of Russia's military Buckeyeblue Feb 2023 #39

I think Russia has run out of "waves" GenThePerservering Feb 2023 #48

Putin does not have the resources described in OP LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #49

Using Twitter as a Primary Source isn't very wise... WarGamer Feb 2023 #51

Do you really believe the numbers in the OP? That is cute and adorable LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #57

Using Twitter for source material is like using Wikipedia for Graduate level classes. WarGamer Feb 2023 #58

Do you ever tire of being WRONG? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #59

You're so predictable... WarGamer Feb 2023 #60

LOL. Thank you for the laughs LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #62

More tweets. WarGamer Feb 2023 #64

Again, thank you for the laughs LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #66

It's also in the NY Post, so it must be true Kennah Feb 2023 #52

It's based on quotes from Ukrainian Gov't officials. WarGamer Feb 2023 #53

No, I would say that both sides are engaged in propaganda Kennah Feb 2023 #54

So you think the Ukrainian Gov't is exaggerating the threat... WarGamer Feb 2023 #55

It's nuanced Kennah Feb 2023 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2023 #61

Russia's Massive Offensive LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #63

Who to believe, LMPV's random tweets or actual REAL sources. WarGamer Feb 2023 #65

Again, thank you for the laughs LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #67

And more tweets.... WarGamer Feb 2023 #73

Again, your posts are really funny LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #78

Just LOL... still arguing things that I didn't say. WarGamer Feb 2023 #80

So far, the Russians are taking very heavy casualties with little gain Kaleva Feb 2023 #68

I think most observers suspected as much... WarGamer Feb 2023 #74

You seem to favour information filtered via major newspaper outlets. Emrys Feb 2023 #69

Just saw this, retweeted from angry staffer jeffreyi Feb 2023 #76

This war of choice has damaged DECADES of Russian progress at building their country. WarGamer Feb 2023 #77

How many of the 500K troops will be properly trained? Poiuyt Feb 2023 #79