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SpankMe

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42. The NTSB 5-member governing board is frequently short one or two members
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 08:02 PM
Feb 2023

The NTSB has powers to investigate accidents and subpoena records. They have no authority to enforce rules and regulations, and they have no power to create new regulations. They can make criminal referrals to law enforcement if they find evidence of criminal acts. But they otherwise have no law enforcement powers. They can - and are required to - determine root cause or probable cause of accidents, and to make recommendations (and ONLY recommendations) about how to prevent accidents in the future.

In exchange for having no authority whatsoever - other to investigate unfettered and make recommendations based on findings - the NTSB was originally protected from any and all politically partisan interference so that they could be completely truthful, candid and unencumbered in their investigations, opinions and recommendations.

This hasn't stopped pro-business and anti-regulation lawmakers (mostly Republican, but not exclusively so) to weaken the NTSB by stifling NTSB's budget, politicizing some NTSB findings, and failing to keep the 5 member governing board fully staffed. They're afraid that the exposure of deficiencies by even a powerless board is a threat to their capitalist overlords. (Members of the governing board require senate approval, and the chair and vice chair are named by the president.)

In recent times there is evidence that the NTSB has been lax in investigating general aviation (GA) accidents and paying even shorter shrift to accidents where the pilot is black. It has been taking up to 3 years to publish final accident reports - even on simple GA accidents. This is way too long. They have not been able to come up with root causes in many cases, and the reported probable causes have been overly generalized and weak. Many final reports have no recommendations (which are required) or the recommendations are perfunctory one-liners.

The governing board is frequently short one or two members, and I believe this is a factor in the degradation of vigor that we're seeing at NTSB in recent years. Currently, they are one member short. With a Democratic Senate and Whitehouse, there is no excuse for not getting a new board member in there right now. For some reason, this just isn't a priority for either party.

I want the NTSB's budget increased. I want the governing board to be fully staffed, with vacancies no longer than a few months. I want the NTSB getting final reports published in a year or less - 18 months max for complicated cases. I want to see new technologies employed that will significantly improve the ability to get to the root cause of accidents. I want staff to be required to document real and detailed root/probable cause statements, and make specific recommendations that would have a positive impact on future aviation (and train/truck/marine) safety.

Also, Rep. James Comer can eat my ass.

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James Comer says NTSB was a typo [View all] underpants Feb 2023 OP
Comer is a stupid jackass! WVreaper Feb 2023 #1
... cilla4progress Feb 2023 #5
Oh FFS cilla4progress Feb 2023 #2
Yeah, he meant NHTSA 😀 TheBlackAdder Feb 2023 #40
it wasn't a typo -- it was ignorance. W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #3
Is it amplification, though, cilla4progress Feb 2023 #6
Of course it is. W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #9
It's about venting and sharing, cilla4progress Feb 2023 #10
What venting was done in the original post? W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #13
No one who posts here about news or current events... hippywife Feb 2023 #14
That's your opinion -- it's not mine. W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #20
You may have been around ALMOST as long as some of us, hippywife Feb 2023 #24
Post removed Post removed Feb 2023 #27
Remedial reading might be of some help. hippywife Feb 2023 #29
Yeah, no kidding. demmiblue Feb 2023 #22
Seriously? Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #8
You would prefer a Democratic message board that amplifies Republican lies? W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #11
Oh, FFS. Have a nice day. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #15
Par for the course, really. n/t demmiblue Feb 2023 #23
The OP's debunking RW bullshit, NOT amplifying it. Even the most cursory of reads clearly shows this Celerity Feb 2023 #17
There was no context or commentary added. W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #25
the sequence of the OP makes it self explanatory nt Celerity Feb 2023 #30
I disagree. W_HAMILTON Feb 2023 #31
you seem to be exhibiting a very low opinion of the average DU reader's cognitive discernment skills Celerity Feb 2023 #32
I agree. ShazzieB Feb 2023 #41
Well my weather ain't fine....so mercuryblues Feb 2023 #19
LOL! Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #43
This was NO typo! ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2023 #4
And everyone on the Repub side signed it. No one saw this error. Not one. underpants Feb 2023 #26
They probably saw it. It's just that none of them had any idea it was an error. Very few of them LoisB Feb 2023 #39
Lol! Yes. My fingers always slip to NTSB that way. Sometimes I'm doing a Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #7
... cilla4progress Feb 2023 #12
excellent gopiscrap Feb 2023 #16
See post 26 above underpants Feb 2023 #28
Ha!!! So true! paleotn Feb 2023 #33
you mean james comer the thug? dembotoz Feb 2023 #18
Liar. They all lie. He's no different. spanone Feb 2023 #21
A typo is when you hit the wrong letter appleannie1 Feb 2023 #34
Amen. LoisB Feb 2023 #37
Foot in mouth disease. Requires N95 gags to stop the spread. mjvpi Feb 2023 #35
That is one hell of a typo. LoisB Feb 2023 #36
1. Mayor Pete? It's Secretary Buttigieg, assh0le. Nice try to diminish his authority. OMGWTF Feb 2023 #38
The NTSB 5-member governing board is frequently short one or two members SpankMe Feb 2023 #42
Excellent post. Thank you. underpants Feb 2023 #44
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