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paleotn

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20. I sometimes wonder, which is more dangerous.....

Sun Feb 26, 2023, 11:15 AM

Feb 2023

The evil yet thoughtful Republican Party of old? Guys like Wilson, Lee Atwater, Bill Buckley and Karl Rove. Or the intellectually stunted cons and grifters like Trump, McCarthy, DeSantas or Gym Jordan? At least some of the old, thoughtful guys have some scruples when it comes to things like...you know...democracy. We may be far less than friends, but we do have common cause with them in that.

But never, ever forget, they're the ones who created the Trump, McCarthy, DeSantas, MTG monster in the first place. They're the unwitting authors of Jan 6.

Mary Shelley's Frankenstein analogy fits very well.

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Rick Wilson pours cold water on DeSantis' future - RawStory [View all] GGoss Feb 2023 OP

What is the reason people should listen to Rick Wilson? Kaleva Feb 2023 #1

Same reason as listening to anyone else. He has an opinion, Ocelot II Feb 2023 #3

Exactly. paleotn Feb 2023 #8

So did Wilson pour cold water on DeSantis aspirations? Kaleva Feb 2023 #14

Sort of, but the cold water is RawStory's headline, Ocelot II Feb 2023 #16

Some believe TFG is a 3D chess player, a mastermind, anointed by God Kaleva Feb 2023 #19

I think at least some people who supported TFG are getting tired of him. Ocelot II Feb 2023 #28

I agree Kaleva Feb 2023 #38

He has an insider's view PJMcK Feb 2023 #4

Yes plus he knows "the dirt" on a lot of those Repuke candidates FakeNoose Feb 2023 #41

Nailed it! PortTack Feb 2023 #44

Wilson is far better tuned to the GOP's internal machinations than we are peggysue2 Feb 2023 #53

+1 sheshe2 Feb 2023 #57

So spot on, Peggysue2 Hekate Feb 2023 #58

What You Said... + A Billion !!! GGoss Feb 2023 #60

His knowledgeable thoughtful opinions are powerful antidotes to rumpism and DeSatanism. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2023 #18

My guess is that the only people who listen to Wilson are those who don't vote R Kaleva Feb 2023 #21

Could be, but there are many Republicans disgusted with the Reds Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2023 #27

Direct link to the original article here: Ocelot II Feb 2023 #2

Thank you n/t ornotna Feb 2023 #12

Thanks! nt reACTIONary Feb 2023 #42

That's the truth as he sees it, but i must point out bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #5

Rick, like so many Republicans, is a plodder. jaxexpat Feb 2023 #17

What the revolution will achieve is what it has in common with Sandersism and Krugmanism Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2023 #24

Is today's Rethug party really dominated by a "grassroots" movement? Martin Eden Feb 2023 #59

Well... 2naSalit Feb 2023 #6

"The party's run by the mob, not by the intellectuals." So let's look at those "intellectuals." 3Hotdogs Feb 2023 #7

I think the distinction is between at least trying to come up with Ocelot II Feb 2023 #11

LBJ had to enlist their help to pass the Civil Rights Act.... paleotn Feb 2023 #15

The intellectuals who built the interstates and the EPA and accomodated Red China Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2023 #25

Interstate was proposed by Ike who saw the Autobahn as military genius and wanted one for U.S. 3Hotdogs Feb 2023 #43

Ike and Nixon were Republicans. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2023 #46

Yes. But the programs were based on military and political expedience. 3Hotdogs Feb 2023 #48

Ah, now I get your drift. You were focusing on the one half of the term and I on other half. Thx Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2023 #54

"a thoughtful, intellectually driven movement." rubbersole Feb 2023 #9

I think that the last honest Republican president was Eisenhower. OMGWTF Feb 2023 #49

Lincoln could think in terms of military expedience. The Emancipation Proclamation .. JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2023 #62

Trump cult members will not drive 2 hours to see DeSantis - unless there is a lynching dalton99a Feb 2023 #10

Or maybe lynching Lee Greenwood 🤔... rubbersole Feb 2023 #52

Even Mike Pence has more charisma C_U_L8R Feb 2023 #13

Noe there's a WWE elimination event the world longs to see. jaxexpat Feb 2023 #26

I sometimes wonder, which is more dangerous..... paleotn Feb 2023 #20

+1 CrispyQ Feb 2023 #23

Yep. They played with fire, got burned and kicked out of their own party. paleotn Feb 2023 #29

They've lost control of the monster they created dlk Feb 2023 #31

The Old Big Lie is that Buckley and his ilk exorcised the John Birchers and crazies back in the day hatrack Feb 2023 #55

Didn't DeSantis beat out Trump in a recent poll in CA? CrispyQ Feb 2023 #22

I see it the other way round. Tfg is already busy burying desatan and it's only going to get worse PortTack Feb 2023 #47

Oh, your crystal ball is as valid as mine! CrispyQ Feb 2023 #50

Partially wrong, not grass roots, astroturf JT45242 Feb 2023 #30

Many were horrified by the social change of the '60's dlk Feb 2023 #33

And Rick Wilson was a part of that jcgoldie Feb 2023 #64

He damaged Dem candidates in truly awful ways dlk Feb 2023 #66

Lev Parnas adores Ron DeSantis. Kid Berwyn Feb 2023 #32

DeSantis and his wife look like Siblings JI7 Feb 2023 #35

Old married couples reflect each other's expressions a lot. Kid Berwyn Feb 2023 #37

Dark money in politics creates nasty bedfellows dlk Feb 2023 #36

FBI guy charged to stop it turned out to be on Putin's payroll. Kid Berwyn Feb 2023 #39

"American Kompromat" is on my list to read dlk Feb 2023 #40

lev Parnas is currently doing jail time. He will not be an influencer in the '24 election PortTack Feb 2023 #45

Great. What do you think of Parnas' support for DeSantis? Kid Berwyn Feb 2023 #51

It's not just that he lacks charisma but that he comes off as miserable JI7 Feb 2023 #34

DeathSantis is not ready for prime time LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #56

DeSantis is very stage managed Renew Deal Feb 2023 #61

Yeah Sure Rick... jcgoldie Feb 2023 #63

I think he is correct in general terms quaker bill Feb 2023 #65