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Hamlette

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20. my favorite outrage re: veterans

Sun Mar 12, 2023, 05:55 PM

Mar 2023

during the Vietnam war, many young men tried to avoid the draft by claiming they were gay even if you were not (you couldn't join if you were gay). So they declared that on their application. The government then required you provide evidence from 2 of your partners and a shrink. At that time, it was a bridge too far and few were able to meet the requirements for an exemption for being gay and were drafted and served their time, many of them in Vietnam.

When those men were discharged, the government went back and if you had said on your application you were gay, even though you had served, you were denied all benefits. the GI bill and otherwise and given a dishonorable discharge.

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Was anyone else as late as we were in learning that... [View all] LAS14 Mar 2023 OP

Did MOMFUDSKI Mar 2023 #1

Multiple parts of the New Deal discriminated against blacks as well Celerity Mar 2023 #2

And many would prefer to bury that sordid racist history malaise Mar 2023 #3

Aye, so it can be reintroduced. Mister Ed Mar 2023 #35

Over these years more than a few of them have promoted the view that slaves were happy singing folks malaise Mar 2023 #38

That's stunning, and I hadn't known it. Mister Ed Mar 2023 #40

You DUers educate me daily malaise Mar 2023 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Mar 2023 #5

G.I. Bill wiki Tetrachloride Mar 2023 #4

Here's a discussion in Snopes. It was not the GI Bill, itself, it was racism, Silent Type Mar 2023 #6

Thanks! nt LAS14 Mar 2023 #9

Nope never knew that. nt doc03 Mar 2023 #7

Please see my edit to the OP. nt LAS14 Mar 2023 #8

That sounds suspiciously like critical race theory EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #10

Did you see the update to my OP? Just wondering... LAS14 Mar 2023 #19

I was a feeble attempt at humor EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #23

IINM Blacks got the GI but not the benefit from it like houses and education uponit7771 Mar 2023 #11

To Herr DeSantis, gov. of FL, this is WOKE and must be eliminated in all schools and RKP5637 Mar 2023 #12

Redlining Johnny2X2X Mar 2023 #13

Parts of the Government DID wilfully racially discriminate as official policy (at your own link) in Celerity Mar 2023 #14

It started w Wilson IbogaProject Mar 2023 #24

I was taught it in high school in the 70's mgardener Mar 2023 #15

Specific exclusion, or Retrograde Mar 2023 #16

Rec. Important post and thread of comments. JudyM Mar 2023 #17

And now gentrification has destroyed a lot of small black communities. PurgedVoter Mar 2023 #18

my favorite outrage re: veterans Hamlette Mar 2023 #20

one more outrage re: gays Hamlette Mar 2023 #21

The GI bill was effectively neutral but was applied under existing discriminatory laws and practices Ford_Prefect Mar 2023 #22

This happened moniss Mar 2023 #25

Only after civil rights days, during my time teaching in 98% Black high schools, did I learn this. ancianita Mar 2023 #26

Disgraceful! calimary Mar 2023 #27

*raises hand* ShazzieB Mar 2023 #28

I thought everyone knew this. Did you also know that Social Security originally excluded LoisB Mar 2023 #29

75% of agriculture workers in 1930s were white Kaleva Mar 2023 #30

Please forgive my poorly worded statement. I should have said that the majority of Black people LoisB Mar 2023 #31

Thanks for the clarification! I agree with the point you are making. Kaleva Mar 2023 #34

Thank you. Sometimes I tend to think others always know what I mean. Thank you for pointing LoisB Mar 2023 #36

Another example of historic racism. I did not know that. Really sucks after you served. Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #32

I only learned about it because I did a course on urban planning and policy ethics. meadowlander Mar 2023 #33

My Dad was in a specialized training program in world war 2 for African Americans who scored kimbutgar Mar 2023 #37

I knew about Red Lining by banks that would keep blacks and other minorities from getting bank loans TigressDem Mar 2023 #39