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scarletlib

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24. True.

Wed Apr 5, 2023, 07:52 PM

Apr 2023

The Church had abandoned its real teaching such as doing good works, the gospel of love and forgiveness that Jesus taught. The brief Renaissance of the 60’s and 70’s when the Church moved toward loving progressive policies & laws were discarded under Pope John II, or J2P2 as I called him.

I wouldn’t say I left the Church so much as it left me.

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Just my opinion, but why does it seem that so many Catholics are nonpracticing or nonbelievers in [View all] debm55 Apr 2023 OP

For a long time Elessar Zappa Apr 2023 #1

Yes, I consider myself a cafeteria Catholic. We call people like me Easter Bunnies and Christmas debm55 Apr 2023 #2

I see this among white Christians in general. shrike3 Apr 2023 #19

few have 12 kids, most use birth control... one of the rules most flaunted by American Catholics BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #43

It makes perfect sense. H2O Man Apr 2023 #62

catholic upbringing pamdb Apr 2023 #3

Looks like the outfit has been taken over by "pro-life" extremists who vote Republican dalton99a Apr 2023 #4

True. scarletlib Apr 2023 #24

The "outfit" is only eight percent of the global RCC shrike3 Apr 2023 #51

I was an altar boy in the Latin mass. padfun Apr 2023 #5

I look at myself as more spiritual and less Catholic then I was as a child. debm55 Apr 2023 #11

Pretty harsh doctrine; lots of magical thinking Sanity Claws Apr 2023 #6

Welcome to American hollow values: meaningless labels lindysalsagal Apr 2023 #7

Catholicism offers culture and framework for living .. TreasonousBastard Apr 2023 #8

I am a recovering Catholic. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2023 #9

Yes, that is how I am too. I try to live a good life, to be kind to others. I know for various debm55 Apr 2023 #14

Me too. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2023 #16

I think it's pretty much the same for most churches. LakeArenal Apr 2023 #10

Depends on which part of the world you're in. shrike3 Apr 2023 #20

Thought we were discussing Catholics in US. LakeArenal Apr 2023 #74

That's what did it for me mcar Apr 2023 #12

I had the nuns for 8 years... albacore Apr 2023 #13

From Class Clown.... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2023 #17

I have heard before that more atheists... ret5hd Apr 2023 #15

I remember telling a story in the Lounge, that after I made my First Communion, I used to go to debm55 Apr 2023 #21

Double that for Jesuits. Reason and deduction were their favorites. albacore Apr 2023 #53

I practice. I think what part of the country you're in has something to do with that. shrike3 Apr 2023 #18

I live outside Pittsburgh. debm55 Apr 2023 #38

I'd like to add, the American church is only eight percent of the global church. shrike3 Apr 2023 #22

Former Ukrainian Catholic, public schooling... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #23

I was baptized Byzantine. I have had friends tell me to become Episcopal. debm55 Apr 2023 #26

Here in NYC St John The Divine is Wonderful! Maybe you could check out.... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #28

I don't think it is just the scandal. I am the type of person that needs answers for things and I debm55 Apr 2023 #39

Uh... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #54

electric blue, I edit my post. I left out that the church wasn't being honest with me. That's all I debm55 Apr 2023 #58

No problem debm55. 👍 Best wishes on you checking another church out finding a spiritual home for... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #59

Spiritual is what I call myself mvd Apr 2023 #52

God as a Force... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #56

Hi - I agree. We have similar views on God mvd Apr 2023 #66

Oh, the suffering bothers me too. I've had my share, and many many more have had it a lot worse! electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #67

I'm a lifelong secularist. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #25

Sounds pretty amazing. A deep experience of people being together in community. electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #55

I was having an interesting evening in any case. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #57

In my public high school, we had a class on the writings and teachings of the Abrahamic religions. debm55 Apr 2023 #60

I have found considerable wisdom in each of these faiths. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #61

I had the best Comparative Religion Course in College 1970!... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #68

Among other things . . . . this: Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 #27

Thank you Stinky, not only did they abuse children but rhe Archdiocese moved them to other parishes debm55 Apr 2023 #73

I grew up Catholic, am now Presbyterian. phylny Apr 2023 #29

Raised Methodist, converted to Catholic, no longer attend Maeve Apr 2023 #30

Yes, loved the Social Gospel. I just wished when I had questions, that I would have just been told debm55 Apr 2023 #40

I Fell Away At Lightspeed At 13 ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #31

My husband, a Methodist, had to sign a paper that any children would be raised Catholic. debm55 Apr 2023 #35

Our Story Is Quite Different ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #36

Neither of us were Roman Catholic. We were told three weeks before the wedding that we couldn't get debm55 Apr 2023 #41

Sorry You Fell For Their BS ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #42

Oh, we paid them for the dispensation. I was Byzantine Catholic, but raised as a Roman Catholic. debm55 Apr 2023 #44

Bummer ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #46

Stupid rules. hippywife Apr 2023 #32

We went every day. Yes, at one time, I considered being a Sister of Charity--nursing. I was very debm55 Apr 2023 #37

I think the internet and access to information has had a lot to do with it rurallib Apr 2023 #33

I'm sorry you experienced something that hideous. electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #69

Catholics mostly believe in education MaryMagdaline Apr 2023 #34

Excellent point Iris Apr 2023 #64

Excellent point Iris Apr 2023 #65

I used to work with an Evangelical Christian. Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #45

Mr.Bill, yes. That is why I started the thread. Why is that so. I know many ex Catholics and debm55 Apr 2023 #48

It's a money machine, Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #49

About 4 years ago, I went every Sunday in a very near poor neighborhood. I liked it. it was small debm55 Apr 2023 #50

Religious philosophy, the T-shirt version: Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #47

For me, it was reading a marriage manual in my 20s that said no intervention Iris Apr 2023 #63

Woah! :( electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #70

Unfortunately for my Republican friends I've forgotten everything I learned from the MaryMagdaline Apr 2023 #71

A different take. Tracer Apr 2023 #72

Raised Catholic, then Guitar Mass Catholic, then Cafeteria Catholic, maxsolomon Apr 2023 #75