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33. nonsense. if an academic is trying to support a particular conclusion, it's up to them to
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 06:27 PM
Dec 2011

provide sufficient quality evidence and a sound methodology. if the evidence isn't there, if the methodology is unsound, the critic need not do additional research or counter-study or provide additional evidence. the critic need simply point out that the original work does not meet the high standard of academic rigor.

this study (at least as represented here) is academically worthless for several reasons, not the least of which is that the basic logic is fallacious.

we're to think that there's something heinous about lad's mags just because people can't distinguish the speaker from some rapists' quotes?

well, i'm sure people couldn't distinguish their choice of breakfast cereals, favorite sitcoms, or brand of jeans either. most likely because these are simply not among the characteristics that distinguish rapists from lad's mag readers, or anyone else for that matter. similarly, there's nothing substantive in this article that suggests that the selected quotes in any way ought to aid in the task of identifying the appropriate speaker.

had they used some known list of standard quotes, about which there had been a great deal of academic work supporting certain conclusions, then we might have something. but as it is, it's worthless.


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Interesting, though not surprising RZM Dec 2011 #1
Meh. My results (with spoiler alert): ieoeja Dec 2011 #2
+1 Seems the gist of the article is that rapist think like other men until.... Scuba Dec 2011 #3
Yep. People should be judged on actions, not thoughts Taverner Dec 2011 #30
meh... seabeyond Dec 2011 #5
" something like that, what can he do with it? " redqueen Dec 2011 #10
So, the topic is rapists and men's mags OriginalGeek Dec 2011 #4
well geez.... seabeyond Dec 2011 #6
sick ad Liberal_in_LA Dec 2011 #12
Something I'm not understanding guitar man Dec 2011 #7
"men are actually more likely to agree with the rapists" Union Scribe Dec 2011 #8
Though the majority of men are not rapists... RandomKoolzip Dec 2011 #17
Thanks for that, and I'll add: REP Dec 2011 #20
Yep. If a rapist says "I like chocolate ice cream"... Taverner Dec 2011 #31
I was able to differentiate 11/16 (with two errors both ways), but the number I agree or petronius Dec 2011 #9
This is just sad. redqueen Dec 2011 #11
How many mens magazines are there and how many back issues are there of those magazines? stevenleser Dec 2011 #13
What is the case that you you think they're trying to make? (nt) redqueen Dec 2011 #14
That there is no difference between the way regular men and rapists talk. nt stevenleser Dec 2011 #16
It seems to me they're focusing on lads' mags, not regular men. redqueen Dec 2011 #18
They dont exactly make that distinction clear in the article. nt stevenleser Dec 2011 #23
Nor this one... LanternWaste Dec 2011 #26
"Nor this one" what? Person asked me a question what I thought the point of the article was. stevenleser Dec 2011 #34
Exactly. Look at all the elipses being used Union Scribe Dec 2011 #15
That's an unfair assumption. redqueen Dec 2011 #19
Well I don't know what's been taken out, Union Scribe Dec 2011 #21
In formal and academic critiques... LanternWaste Dec 2011 #27
nonsense. if an academic is trying to support a particular conclusion, it's up to them to unblock Dec 2011 #33
Hm, I wonder how a 'can you tell the difference between a harlequin romance novel and police report' Edweird Dec 2011 #22
i think this is a provocative but academically worthless "study". unblock Dec 2011 #24
Nicely put. randome Dec 2011 #32
Eeew. lapislzi Dec 2011 #25
I haven't seen today's "men's magazines", but to me... Speck Tater Dec 2011 #28
This is from the article Lunacee2012 Dec 2011 #29
You know, maybe humanity dying out isn't so bad. Zhade Dec 2011 #35
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