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Bettie

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86. It happens more and more often lately

Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:10 PM

Apr 2023

and it is a fairly recent development.

I don't have a gun, like you, we have a baseball bat and a BIG, barky dog...though the little dog is the more dangerous of the two, he's an ankle biter if he thinks someone is a threat...though, he only has about four teeth left, so not so dangerous.

In any case, this guy did nothing that should have ended in his death...as much as I think there are too many guns out there, he didn't deserve immediate execution for having a gun.

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Officers kill homeowner after responding to wrong address [View all] In It to Win It Apr 2023 OP

To Serve and Protect Coventina Apr 2023 #1

Did none of the police cars have their overheads on? TheBlackAdder Apr 2023 #76

Don't go open a door with a gun in your hand Kaleva Apr 2023 #2

I Wonder If You Had The Same Words of Wisdom After the Breonna Taylor Murder. -NT- ruet Apr 2023 #9

Does your training say to do what the homeowner did? Kaleva Apr 2023 #88

Of course! gratuitous Apr 2023 #15

Easy to blame the cops, but why did this innocent neighbor answer.... TreasonousBastard Apr 2023 #3

Good question. MineralMan Apr 2023 #5

For Sure RobinA Apr 2023 #11

Ok, Go Up to Someone's House at 11:30 PM and Bang on Their Door. ruet Apr 2023 #13

Believe it inthewind21 Apr 2023 #21

This place has definitely drifted rightward over time. Coventina Apr 2023 #22

I'm Not Sure It's RW Drift. ruet Apr 2023 #25

Oh, so they're blaming the homeowner for just having the gun Coventina Apr 2023 #28

With this inthewind21 Apr 2023 #30

indeed inthewind21 Apr 2023 #26

+1 million. Very depressing Arazi Apr 2023 #79

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2023 #97

You know plenty of people have been killed by police for holding a cell phone Arazi Apr 2023 #78

I blame the police. At this time guns are legal and citizens are allowed to possess them XorXor Apr 2023 #100

A bright day for the gun industry, except for that whole guns for protection thing sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #4

Unfortunately... jmowreader Apr 2023 #6

Assuming that you know it's cops at the door. wnylib Apr 2023 #32

Why answer the door with a gun in your hand even if you don't know? jmowreader Apr 2023 #48

Because somebody pounding on your door at 11:30 pm is not wnylib Apr 2023 #50

I'd call 911 moonscape Apr 2023 #62

I probably would, too, since I don't have a gun. wnylib Apr 2023 #65

Exactly. moonscape Apr 2023 #66

A lot of bad things can happen in the 10 to 20 minutes it takes for a sheriff's deputy doc03 Apr 2023 #92

Cops are at wrong address, dispatcher might not connect yagotme Apr 2023 #101

Yeah that was weird. ecstatic Apr 2023 #71

The guy probably spent too much time on Nextdoor LeftInTX Apr 2023 #102

madness. What a disaster. SMH ecstatic Apr 2023 #7

There's body cam footage. lapucelle Apr 2023 #8

"Oh. Hey. Sorry bout that." lpbk2713 Apr 2023 #10

Play Deadly Games RobinA Apr 2023 #12

What A Horrifying Take. ruet Apr 2023 #17

Answering while armed enabled the situation Renew Deal Apr 2023 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author ruet Apr 2023 #33

Why inthewind21 Apr 2023 #37

One of the articles says that they claimed they did. Renew Deal Apr 2023 #44

If somebody's pounding at my door at eleven thirty Tribetime Apr 2023 #20

Why answer the door at all? Renew Deal Apr 2023 #31

You Will Twist Yourself Into Logical Knots Backing This Silly Position. Let's Play a Game. ruet Apr 2023 #35

You don't need a gun if you know it's the police Renew Deal Apr 2023 #39

I... Just... Can't ruet Apr 2023 #40

Of course not, because there always has to be a gun at the bottom of that rope in your world. Renew Deal Apr 2023 #42

Well, at my house inthewind21 Apr 2023 #38

Do you bother to find out who is outside or do you just start shooting to make the noise stop? Renew Deal Apr 2023 #41

No inthewind21 Apr 2023 #61

I don't get the last part. Why open your door after seeing that everything is fine inside? ecstatic Apr 2023 #72

Good thing you're so well prepared Chautauquas Apr 2023 #82

2am I heard my gate open very quietly, Heard shuffling, then heard the gate close. BlueWaveNeverEnd Apr 2023 #89

I just use the Ring camera (did this today with phylny Apr 2023 #73

I wouldn't call opening ones door a deadly game XorXor Apr 2023 #103

It gets even weirder Nevilledog Apr 2023 #84

What inthewind21 Apr 2023 #14

An armed society is a polite society Coventina Apr 2023 #23

So much for "home defense"... Bettie Apr 2023 #16

FTP. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #18

This is another case where guns are to blame Renew Deal Apr 2023 #19

Well inthewind21 Apr 2023 #24

I'm guessing he grabbed it when the bell rang. Renew Deal Apr 2023 #27

I'm guessing inthewind21 Apr 2023 #34

That's likely Renew Deal Apr 2023 #43

I have had police come to my place sarisataka Apr 2023 #60

One of the many reasons I never answer unexpected knocks on the door. Ever. LuckyCharms Apr 2023 #36

There are tons of Ring videos of exactly this. Renew Deal Apr 2023 #45

After 31 years of marriage, I still can't convince my wife to not answer LuckyCharms Apr 2023 #54

Yes..However without Ring how would we know LeftInTX Apr 2023 #104

I don't think the officers were going to go away if the door wasn't answered. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2023 #53

Well, I would play the situation by ear in that case. LuckyCharms Apr 2023 #56

I disagree with the concept of ACAB... WarGamer Apr 2023 #46

Voluntary manslaughter all day long. SYFROYH Apr 2023 #69

BOTH husband and wife answer door stopdiggin Apr 2023 #47

I didn't think of that. Renew Deal Apr 2023 #49

THE POLICE WERE AT THE WRONG HOUSE! ruet Apr 2023 #55

You can't communicate civily enough to avoid banning? Renew Deal Apr 2023 #57

Gun owners are obligated to get adequate training Kaleva Apr 2023 #91

Don't know. But I think it's worth asking .. stopdiggin Apr 2023 #77

The pizza guy, making minimum wage, seems capable of finding the right address without problem. rsdsharp Apr 2023 #51

I've never gotten gotten lost on Google Maps. In It to Win It Apr 2023 #52

uh Kali Apr 2023 #64

My Office & Lab Was In A Site Like That ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #67

I had signs made and 10 days later, next wreck, Kali Apr 2023 #70

I was trying to find a house/street, but couldn't find it. LeftInTX Apr 2023 #108

Yea cops shooting wrong person? sarisataka Apr 2023 #58

An armed society is a polite society Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2023 #59

Lots of victim blaming on this thread. Wow. n/t Coventina Apr 2023 #63

It happens more and more often lately Bettie Apr 2023 #86

You have every right to answer the door with a gun in doc03 Apr 2023 #68

you have that right stopdiggin Apr 2023 #80

I can think of exactly one scenario in which this shooting MIGHT be justified. Jedi Guy Apr 2023 #74

I posted this above, but there's some weird shit about this Nevilledog Apr 2023 #85

That's pretty wild. I suppose it could be a coincidence, but those are very long odds. Jedi Guy Apr 2023 #93

Maybe the victim knew about the deaths at the salvage yard Solomon Apr 2023 #94

Then why would he open the door and expose himself? Kaleva Apr 2023 #99

This is very interesting gulliver Apr 2023 #95

This happened about 40 miles away from me in a very red town. likesmountains 52 Apr 2023 #75

Instead of opening the door maybe he should have followed Biden's advice. former9thward Apr 2023 #81

Lol! ecstatic Apr 2023 #87

Glad we found a situation where the majority here supports the cops hardluck Apr 2023 #83

Critizing the gun owner isn't supporting the police Kaleva Apr 2023 #90

Two things can't be true here at DU. bluedigger Apr 2023 #96

Yes Kaleva Apr 2023 #98

Do we have enough information to say they shouldn't have shot him? Renew Deal Apr 2023 #105

I agree with you hardluck Apr 2023 #106

There really is no glee in avoidable tragedies like this one Kaleva Apr 2023 #107

Mexican Standoff's tend to not go very well Quixote1818 Apr 2023 #109

The body cam footage has been released. WARNING GRAPHIC Renew Deal Apr 2023 #110

Strange no one has commented on the video. sarisataka Apr 2023 #111