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marmar

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Mon Apr 17, 2023, 08:38 AM Apr 2023

Fox News has lost control of its viewers [View all]


Fox News has lost control of its viewers
Fox News was founded to control the GOP base — but now the hosts are in the thrall of their worst viewers

By AMANDA MARCOTTE
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED APRIL 17, 2023 6:05AM (EDT)


(Salon) Roger Ailes came up with the idea for Fox News in the 70s, when he was working as an image consultant for then-president Richard Nixon. From the get-go, the idea was that a TV network would be a top-down propaganda outlet that would manipulate and control voters, especially more conservative ones. "People are lazy," read a document titled "A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News" that was presented to Nixon in 1970. "With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you." Even though the document was unsigned, it's widely believed to be the work of Ailes, who wanted a "pro-Administration" mouthpiece that could go around the traditional media.

The plan didn't get off the ground during the Nixon administration. It's arguable, and Ailes certainly believed, that if such a network had existed at the time, Nixon would have very well been able to survive Watergate. A Fox News would have been able to blast Republican voters with non-stop excuses that they could use to ignore the uncomfortable reality that their president was irredeemably corrupt. The proof of concept is evident: Donald Trump has survived multiple scandals that all make Watergate look like small stakes, largely because Fox is on hand to feed GOP voters all the rationalizations they need to stick by Trump's side.

Ailes, who died in 2017, was able to make his right-wing "news" network a reality in 1996 when he used Rupert Murdoch's backing to found Fox News. A defamation lawsuit against Fox by Dominion Voting Systems, which a judge delayed start of until Tuesday, has already revealed that Fox News does not work as Ailes imagined it would. It is not a top-down propaganda outlet exploiting the empty heads of its right-wing audience in order to exert mind control over them. On the contrary, pre-trial documents filed by Dominion show the opposite: Fox's content is determined largely by the audience. Fox viewers want their favorite network to affirm the various racist conspiracy theories that proliferate on right-wing social media, and Fox leadership, eager to keep viewers and ad dollars, has been all too willing to comply. Even when, as the documents show, they're well aware that the "news" they're reporting isn't true.

....(snip)....

"Respecting this audience whether we agree or not is critical," host Sean Hannity wrote in one text, arguing that Fox needed to step up its game in airing these election conspiracy theories, even though he knew full well that Biden was the actual winner.

....(snip)....

It's likely that the relationship between Fox News and its viewers did, at one time, exist how Ailes imagined it, where Fox News tells people what to believe and they obediently listen. The advent of social media, however, shifted the locus of power away from the network to its viewers. On social media, there's no real check on how wild conspiracy theories can get or how far misinformation can spread. To compete with that, Fox News has to offer the same high-octane right-wing nuttery. It's likely that the trial will result in even more embarrassing evidence of how much Fox has reshaped itself to appeal to its audience's ugliest desires. ................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2023/04/17/fox-news-has-lost-control-of-its-viewers/




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The GOP propaganda arm created a monster which now controls them. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #1
Yep, you are correct. Eat it republicans. republianmushroom Apr 2023 #49
THIS!!☝️ onetexan Apr 2023 #64
Great. So the loons are not in the studio. They are my neighbors instead. bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #4
There's no getting even as a class. There are only too few individuals to get justice, that and ... marble falls Apr 2023 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #25
I think we'll at the very least see a more moderate Fox. But burning it down would sit OK with me. marble falls Apr 2023 #26
Save America! Do not settle! There is a higher calling! Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #3
Fox News had a full page ad in the Washington Post today showing a poll proclaining them the most FSogol Apr 2023 #5
Is that supposed to be a joke? SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2023 #6
Not a joke. Full page ad on back of A section. n/t FSogol Apr 2023 #17
WP elling out its ethic for a few bucks? That really true? Wonder Why Apr 2023 #8
Just posted a screenshot below BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #14
it's probably true NJCher Apr 2023 #35
It could have also read BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #39
My immediate question to that claim would be "trusted by whom?" calimary Apr 2023 #62
Ads are ads. Newspapers don't pick sides on selling ad space. Outright lies are perfectly FSogol Apr 2023 #18
The Surpreme Court ruled Fox had no obligation to tell the truth. marble falls Apr 2023 #28
Please homegirl Apr 2023 #52
Oooops. I vaguely remember that being being posted here in the early 2000's ... marble falls Apr 2023 #54
But WP needs the ethics to not accept it - even in ads or put a disclaimer as a minimum. Wonder Why Apr 2023 #58
Freedom of expression includes the freedom to lie. Mariana Apr 2023 #63
The problem is there are exceptions: an oath for example, or 'truth in advertising', one can ... marble falls Apr 2023 #65
Ewww... BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #13
Thanks for posting that. While some here want to bash WAPO over it, it just shows the sad state of FSogol Apr 2023 #19
YW BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #20
59% do not trust The Wizard Apr 2023 #36
YouGov is a UK polling org. WP is requesting the data on the poll LiberalArkie Apr 2023 #55
LOL BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #57
You gov isn't any RW poller per se, but Fox DID commission the poll. marble falls Apr 2023 #27
I can imagine that they gamed the poll too BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #31
you don't have to imagine it NJCher Apr 2023 #37
I remember way back in the '70s BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #44
Notice it doesn't say they are trusted for truth Ohioboy Apr 2023 #48
In the 1970s GOP politicians controlled their voters, now they are their voters Johonny Apr 2023 #7
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2023 #33
and they just keep doing it NJCher Apr 2023 #38
That's such a good point. The new breed of RW politicians are products of fox/RW propaganda erronis Apr 2023 #50
The GOP does have a history of electing irredeemably corrupt crooks IronLionZion Apr 2023 #9
Read "Untouchable" by Elie Honig. AngryOldDem Apr 2023 #16
Elie was interviewed by Preet Bahara NJCher Apr 2023 #40
Actually, I got my books confused. AngryOldDem Apr 2023 #45
So, does this mean Fox news is blameless? jaxexpat Apr 2023 #10
No, just that history repeats itself. shrike3 Apr 2023 #24
my friend the criminologist says the same NJCher Apr 2023 #42
Excellent analogy. Dateline is one of my guilty pleasures. shrike3 Apr 2023 #46
I have been saying this ITAL Apr 2023 #11
The very name "Fox News" is a blatant violation of the Truth in Advertising Act. n/t DFW Apr 2023 #12
Yep. They've got loonier competition now. AngryOldDem Apr 2023 #15
It was inevidible: Sow the clouds, reap the whirlwinds. marble falls Apr 2023 #21
Not surprised that the inmates are in charge of the prison ... aggiesal Apr 2023 #23
I LOOK forward to their FAILURE YoshidaYui Apr 2023 #29
The TeaParty fiasco was driven in large part by Faux - the QWhackadoodles have since taken control. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2023 #30
exclusive photo of Rupert Murdoch confronting his volatile viewers Bucky Apr 2023 #32
Poor Rupert. AngryOldDem Apr 2023 #41
🤣 NJCher Apr 2023 #43
A settlement The Wizard Apr 2023 #34
They haven't lost control if the bobble heads are still watching SouthernDem4ever Apr 2023 #47
They painted themselves into a corner... Caliman73 Apr 2023 #51
They can't lie to themselves RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2023 #53
I don't watched Fox. Am not even curious about their opinions. pwb Apr 2023 #56
It should be noted that the goals are the same? NullTuples Apr 2023 #59
fux gnewz created the monster. now its feral. pansypoo53219 Apr 2023 #60
FNC trained it's audience to believe their lies. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2023 #61
I just found this when looking at Marcy Wheeler's stuff (she had retweeted) BumRushDaShow Apr 2023 #66
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