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29. You don't need a depression for fascist dictators to gain power

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Fri Apr 21, 2023, 09:32 PM

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Does anybody else sometimes feel like they're Living in Germany in the early 30s? [View all] raccoon Apr 2023 OP

Yes. pdxflyboy Apr 2023 #1

No. brooklynite Apr 2023 #2

You might want to tell that to people who know history then Marius25 Apr 2023 #21

Agree Meowmee Apr 2023 #43

My father was also murdered 6 months ago. As soon as people decided that it was okay to sacrifice liberal_mama Apr 2023 #78

agree completely Meowmee Apr 2023 #91

True but they miscalculate treestar Apr 2023 #68

Many Germans echoed these thoughts back then right up until............. Celerity Apr 2023 #79

Both the book and Germany reflect national policies. Not what we're having here. brooklynite Apr 2023 #82

I disagree. The US does have a nationalised cancerous rot growing within it. Celerity Apr 2023 #84

Erik Larson wrote an excellent book PatSeg Apr 2023 #98

Good god I hope not Srkdqltr Apr 2023 #3

Yes Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #4

We have the benefit of hindsight and history, we have real time digital communications bucolic_frolic Apr 2023 #5

It's our only hope if we lose our democracy. You are right. But we still must be vigilant! CTyankee Apr 2023 #15

If we don't prevail in upcoming elections, anciano Apr 2023 #6

No. BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2023 #7

Maybe bdamomma Apr 2023 #8

No. The Great Depression was happening then Kaleva Apr 2023 #9

Holocaust Survivors have literally said the US over the past 6 years Marius25 Apr 2023 #20

Without the Depression, it's unlikely Hitler would have rose to power Kaleva Apr 2023 #27

You don't need a depression for fascist dictators to gain power Marius25 Apr 2023 #29

See post #30 Kaleva Apr 2023 #31

You need a desperate economic situation. treestar Apr 2023 #69

Have you noticed how RW policies bring us close wnylib Apr 2023 #61

Can you provide examples where it wasn't necessary? Kaleva Apr 2023 #74

Italian fascism goes back to the early 1920s, wnylib Apr 2023 #86

Italy was in economic turmoil in 1919 and 1920 Kaleva Apr 2023 #87

After WWI, post war economic instability wnylib Apr 2023 #92

Economic turmoil alone doesn't lead to the rise of fascism Kaleva Apr 2023 #93

The effect of economic instability is often political instability. wnylib Apr 2023 #96

he likely still would have if he had RW social media and a Fox News starting in the 1920's Celerity Apr 2023 #80

Hitler had Goebbels, a master at propaganda Kaleva Apr 2023 #81

Imagine what Goebbels would have done with global social media. Celerity Apr 2023 #83

What are you doing in response to it? Kaleva Apr 2023 #88

I do a lot to try & get Democrats elected. I have a broad, global group of friends and acquaintances Celerity Apr 2023 #89

A tip of the hat to you for your efforts! Kaleva Apr 2023 #94

America has 50 fascist potential incubators so depends if you living in one of the incubator States. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2023 #23

The economy plays a major role in the rise of fascists Kaleva Apr 2023 #30

The US is seeing massive inflation Marius25 Apr 2023 #33

And that still doesn't come close to the hyper inflation Germany had in the early 20s Kaleva Apr 2023 #59

Exactly treestar Apr 2023 #70

Context and relativity matter Zeitghost Apr 2023 #63

I reflect on the similarities... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #10

My thoughts, too Deuxcents Apr 2023 #12

No GuppyGal Apr 2023 #11

No Sympthsical Apr 2023 #13

If you had, you'd see the similarities. Marius25 Apr 2023 #18

I have a history degree Sympthsical Apr 2023 #26

this post should be a sticky titled... "Calling people you don't like names" WarGamer Apr 2023 #37

Totally agree. nt Raine Apr 2023 #41

For females in this country....call it what you will Hope22 Apr 2023 #46

We absolutely have problems in this country Sympthsical Apr 2023 #48

One of the best responses SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2023 #54

Great post. As somebody who enjoys browsing the Internet but who spent most of his life without it, Midwestern Democrat Apr 2023 #65

The internet has done something very dumb. Sympthsical Apr 2023 #67

Excuse the baseball analogy but home run after home run. (he critically thinks) nt Prairie_Seagull Apr 2023 #72

If you had, you could see treestar Apr 2023 #71

I have actually read some of them too. raccoon Apr 2023 #55

Yes. MOMFUDSKI Apr 2023 #14

No, too many of us are standing up to the fascists, authoritarians, and all-around assholes. FSogol Apr 2023 #16

Yes. Marius25 Apr 2023 #17

Having studied interwar Europe sarisataka Apr 2023 #19

Nope. NT Patton French Apr 2023 #22

More like Yugoslavia from 1991. roamer65 Apr 2023 #24

I wasn't alive then so I can't compare how I feel. panader0 Apr 2023 #25

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This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2023 #32

I'm going to say YES. EndlessWire Apr 2023 #34

For those refusing to believe it's happening here... Marius25 Apr 2023 #35

I wonder if it's semantics for some? OneGrassRoot Apr 2023 #73

If you mean moondust Apr 2023 #36

History doesn't repeat but it sure the hell does rhyme. 303squadron Apr 2023 #38

No. Not at all. WarGamer Apr 2023 #39

oh definitely, nt yellowdogintexas Apr 2023 #40

No, not at all. nt Raine Apr 2023 #42

What's different? nt LAS14 Apr 2023 #50

Yes, absolutely yes Meowmee Apr 2023 #44

How? We Democrats are ignorant and just not being able to face reality? How? betsuni Apr 2023 #58

by denying that fascism is very close taking to over here, that is how Meowmee Apr 2023 #90

Been saying this fir a good while Cosmocat Apr 2023 #45

Cabaret UTUSN Apr 2023 #47

Yes! I hope it's not true, but it feels truly scary!! nt LAS14 Apr 2023 #49

For about the last 6 years. Keep resisting. Hekate Apr 2023 #51

Yeah... DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #52

No, prob. not. This isn't 1930s Nazism. This is a US authoritarian movement in a country Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #53

I do live in Germany--just 90 years later. DFW Apr 2023 #56

No. betsuni Apr 2023 #57

Nobody here can relate to life in early 30s Germany Kaleva Apr 2023 #60

+1 onenote Apr 2023 #85

No. Nt obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2023 #62

Yep, afraid so. (nt) Paladin Apr 2023 #64

We'd be seriously worried about giving Nazi sympathizers reason to suspect Hortensis Apr 2023 #66

No nt XanaDUer2 Apr 2023 #75

Although we have the advantage of looking back in hindsight... kentuck Apr 2023 #76

If people feel that way, why aren't people fleeing or going dark? Kaleva Apr 2023 #77

Except for inflation my daily life hasn't changed much. nt leftyladyfrommo Apr 2023 #95

A slow burn over the past 30 years Torchlight Apr 2023 #97