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Straw Man

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38. That doesn't mean she put live rounds in the gun.

Sat Apr 22, 2023, 03:31 AM

Apr 2023

I'll grant, though, that it's against most safety protocols to have live rounds anywhere on the set.

The most obvious conclusion is that she didn't know what she was doing. A complication is that the live rounds were apparently reloads.

Live rounds are live rounds, whether they're reloads or fresh out of the box. Most reloads are indistinguishable from store-bought rounds except that the cases may be a little tarnished. If you're saying that she didn't know live rounds from blanks, then she REALLY didn't know what she was doing, and had no business overseeing firearm use anywhere.

That's three live rounds and a blank. Those are rifle rounds, but the principle is the same.

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