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Sun Apr 23, 2023, 11:11 AM Apr 2023

Gun Violence Is Actually Worse in Red States. It's Not Even Close. [View all]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/surprising-geography-gun-violence-110000396.html


Listen to the southern right talk about violence in America and you’d think New York City was as dangerous as Bakhmut on Ukraine’s eastern front.

In October, Florida’s Republican governor Ron DeSantis proclaimed crime in New York City was “out of control” and blamed it on George Soros. Another Sunshine State politico, former president Donald Trump, offered his native city up as a Democrat-run dystopia, one of those places “where the middle class used to flock to live the American dream are now war zones, literal war zones.” In May 2022, hours after 19 children were murdered at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas, Republican Gov. Greg Abbott swatted back suggestions that the state could save lives by implementing tougher gun laws by proclaiming “Chicago and L.A. and New York disprove that thesis.”

In reality, the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades.

If you grew up in the coal mining region of eastern Pennsylvania your chance of dying of a gunshot is about half that if you grew up in the coalfields of West Virginia, three hundred miles to the southwest. Someone living in the most rural counties of South Carolina is more than three times as likely to be killed by gunshot than someone living in the equally rural counties of New York’s Adirondacks or the impoverished rural counties facing Mexico across the lower reaches of the Rio Grande.
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So Why Isn't This Being Reported In MSM?..... global1 Apr 2023 #1
Fox News dominates MSM and spews their crap 7x24 and is the most listed to network. RKP5637 Apr 2023 #2
It's not just Fox DENVERPOPS Apr 2023 #9
Yes, this is very accurate! I wish there were a way to help people become more introspective. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2023 #12
I've often wondered why MSM KS Toronado Apr 2023 #11
Because there is this finding to complicate the curtailment of 2A policies in red states. And so ancianita Apr 2023 #14
Thus confirming that the more lax or worshipfull laws are about guns, the more they are used sanatanadharma Apr 2023 #3
Logical outcome of the guns everywhere for everyone policy. scarletlib Apr 2023 #4
Don't forget 'Stand Your Ground' laws that encourage people to use them... Wounded Bear Apr 2023 #6
True. scarletlib Apr 2023 #16
Crime and Law enforcement are managed on a local level, not statewide MichMan Apr 2023 #5
Of course a governor is responsible for crime and violence in cities f_townsend Apr 2023 #19
What about Democratic governors? MichMan Apr 2023 #23
Has Whitmer worked with the gun lobby to make it a cinch for criminals and psychos to get guns? f_townsend Apr 2023 #24
Jim Webb's book "Born Fighting" has a good explanation... albacore Apr 2023 #7
So does Joe Bageant's essay "Drink, Pray, Fuck, Fight" DinahMoeHum Apr 2023 #8
Bageant's stuff is more fun to read. albacore Apr 2023 #13
Yeah, I miss him so bad. DinahMoeHum Apr 2023 #22
Details at: https://www.nationhoodlab.org/the-geography-of-u-s-gun-violence/ Dorn Apr 2023 #10
Interesting the solid blue moonscape Apr 2023 #21
There's more gun deaths where they love guns more? Iggo Apr 2023 #15
Would it be possible for our side to mention this occasionally? senseandsensibility Apr 2023 #17
There are "strategists" in the Democratic party who I'm convinced are GOP moles f_townsend Apr 2023 #20
Red States have more mass shootings than Blue States LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #18
Those stats are a good enough reason for SCOTUS to block blue state gun control laws NullTuples Apr 2023 #25
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