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oldsoftie

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241. Oh, no! Friends who were scared to openly admit he'd turned them off.

Thu Apr 27, 2023, 06:27 PM

Apr 2023

Facebook, Twitter, IG, etc. Because they'd probably lose family if they did. So they'd post generic stuff compared to '16, when they were all in. And I know several people in many states who told me similar stories. I just talked to two people TODAY who told me if he's the pick, they're not voting. I see no reason to NOT believe them because I'm never the one who brings it up. And it was the "undervotes" that killed trump. Ron Johnson even explained it when he didnt know he was being recorded. Raffensberger did the same in GA; pointing out that the Senate candidates got thousands more votes than trump. He did it again on MSNBC the other day.

But I never got a single message from someone who voted for HRC telling me they were going for trump over Biden.

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How do you feel about Biden? "But his age" "I prefer a different candidate" [View all] Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 OP

I really like Biden samplegirl Apr 2023 #1

I like Biden. His age isn't ideal, but right now, I can't think of anyone in the party Texin Apr 2023 #63

Kennedy wont beat Biden. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #83

I'm not worried about Kennedy "beating" Biden. I'm concerned about him the number of Texin Apr 2023 #143

Oh I'm sure there are some Dems who are anti vax. But not the # of GOP oldsoftie Apr 2023 #145

I'm not worried about Kennedy "beating" Biden. I'm concerned Texin Apr 2023 #144

Newsome will not win the rustbelt this year. Demsrule86 May 2023 #247

I'm not sure a Democrat will ever "win the Rustbelt" in the foreseeable future. Texin May 2023 #250

In almost every other culture age is revered because with it Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #2

LoL no with age doesn't come wisdom AntivaxHunters Apr 2023 #22

You're wrong. Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #29

Agree Meowmee Apr 2023 #54

That's what I said lol AntivaxHunters Apr 2023 #108

But merely being the oldest person in the room does not make one the wisest person in the room. whopis01 Apr 2023 #123

True, but without the years that learning can't happen. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #137

It seems those "personality disorders that make learning impossible" aren't that rare Silent3 Apr 2023 #165

not with all treestar Apr 2023 #51

Well Trump Rebl2 Apr 2023 #85

Trump is and always was an idiot...Biden smart. One of the reasons he has been so successful Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #176

In almost every other culture Rural_Progressive Apr 2023 #42

Oh please. Who do you think stands a snowballs chance in Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #44

I think Trump goes down in flames. He won't win a general. Demsrule86 May 2023 #248

what culture does that? treestar Apr 2023 #52

So inthewind21 Apr 2023 #96

+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #114

Yes, but they can be too extreme also JI7 Apr 2023 #48

Democrats will unite behind Biden and Harris... kentuck Apr 2023 #3

I 100% agree my question is what will Independents do Tribetime Apr 2023 #40

I am so tired of the equivocation FalloutShelter Apr 2023 #4

I am with you all the way on this one! True Blue American Apr 2023 #7

Agree on all points! yardwork Apr 2023 #10

+1000 wnylib Apr 2023 #31

Exactly! VP Harris will be there, ready treestar Apr 2023 #57

PLUS 1000 FalloutShelter Apr 2023 #67

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2023 #94

Amen, amen, amen. wryter2000 Apr 2023 #91

After Tubby McTraitor's term, you could run a shoehorn and I would vote for it. 634-5789 Apr 2023 #5

. BeerBarrelPolka Apr 2023 #6

It troubles me. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2023 #8

What troubles you? Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 #9

The age factor TheCowsCameHome Apr 2023 #24

The age doesn't bother me at all. wnylib Apr 2023 #35

Should I tell my age? True Blue American Apr 2023 #68

Biden has more edge at 80 treestar Apr 2023 #58

Not to mention the scare tactics media we have. True Blue American Apr 2023 #69

And, that includes a substantial portion of the people who GoCubsGo Apr 2023 #140

While there are generalities - I think it's a very individual thing electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #156

You should read this article then.. Cha Apr 2023 #197

+1 progressoid Apr 2023 #127

He will be the candidate and will run against a guy who is two years younger...so age is not Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #171

Maybe, maybe not Polybius Apr 2023 #177

Well, if it is DeSantis, it would be even better...anyone else but Trump gets the nomination, it Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #185

Yeah, he would split their Party Polybius Apr 2023 #220

Per DU rules, I can't answer this question honestly RAB910 Apr 2023 #11

Now let's go to question two Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 #16

Fuck... EYESORE 9001 Apr 2023 #17

I'm sure there is not a single Democrat in the nation fescuerescue Apr 2023 #20

Really inthewind21 Apr 2023 #98

It is my opinion that those that ruined the election and caused Hillary to lose were not Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #179

I agree inthewind21 Apr 2023 #183

I am a loyal Democrat so I am not one we need to worry about RAB910 Apr 2023 #21

We lost a lot of good DUers who questioned whether HRC was our best candidate Arazi Apr 2023 #28

No intent to denigrate anyone. Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 #32

Everyone knows the words that have to be said. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #39

Why is anything thats not 100% positive seen as an attack? oldsoftie Apr 2023 #90

"Not 100% positive?" LOL Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #100

Supporting Democrats INCLUDES criticism. progressoid Apr 2023 #124

Meh Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #125

Good point. progressoid Apr 2023 #128

Better that coming up with rationalizations for the ongoing attacks on leading Democrats. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #131

Is it though? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2023 #134

Uh...hell yes. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #135

Rationalizations? progressoid Apr 2023 #149

No, I understand the meaning of the word. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #151

OK, I was an average student. progressoid Apr 2023 #157

I would prefer not to. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #158

Sadly, a lot of people here did that in regards to Dianne Feinstein. Lancero Apr 2023 #162

Sad, but true. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #163

Not once the candidate is chosen...it merely depresses voting and convinces others to vote for Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #180

Thank you. Why is that so hard to grasp? oldsoftie Apr 2023 #230

No it doesn't. It weakens our candidates. We could have won in 2000,2004 and 2016 but instead some Demsrule86 May 2023 #249

No inthewind21 Apr 2023 #103

Nobody here voted for trump. But some Obama voters DID. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #106

Truth qzwv8j Apr 2023 #115

We all know what really happened. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #126

This isnt one of those sites. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #129

I might emphatically disagree. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #132

Do tell. progressoid Apr 2023 #187

I think you mean to respond to #126 oldsoftie Apr 2023 #231

No inthewind21 Apr 2023 #142

Oh come on; AZ, GA & WI were won with a total of less than 45k oldsoftie Apr 2023 #173

Come on where? inthewind21 Apr 2023 #188

If we run anyone but Biden, we will lose. There is no other candidate who can win rust-belt states. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #170

Are you forgetting about how the Electoral College WORKS? oldsoftie Apr 2023 #174

No one else would come that close. There is no other candidate who could win...very telling that Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #181

I picked Biden the 1st day we were given the choice here. Of course I back him. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #194

What are you hoping to accomplish here? edisdead Apr 2023 #217

Why is it SO hard to follow? oldsoftie Apr 2023 #226

Got the links? edisdead Apr 2023 #228

Links to what? oldsoftie Apr 2023 #232

To all the posts. edisdead Apr 2023 #235

My post is about the electoral college. I explained the numbers in the post oldsoftie Apr 2023 #237

The ones that you say are all over here. edisdead Apr 2023 #240

You obviously meant to respond to a different post. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #245

It is not partially positive and it is a GOP talking point thus it is an attack and has no place Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #182

Who are these good DUers who enabled TFG? AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2023 #66

yes who inthewind21 Apr 2023 #104

Was wondering the same... edisdead Apr 2023 #218

That is incorrect mcar Apr 2023 #110

I wasnt here yet in 2016... Some DU'rs called Hillary the c - word?! Really?! electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #159

The c-word was hardly the worst. It was all about going after character, not policy, and betsuni Apr 2023 #166

It was pure, unadulterated misogyny mcar Apr 2023 #169

Oh! Tfg more liberal than HRC(?).... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #202

Yep mcar Apr 2023 #204

More liberal and less dangerous. Trump voters flocking to him because Hillary made all the jobs betsuni Apr 2023 #213

A few dozen of them hijacked the name of a deceased DUer and formed their own website DFW Apr 2023 #192

Hooo, boy! 🙁 .... electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #203

I've forgotten almost all of my high school Latin DFW Apr 2023 #210

👍 I know of the original phrase that it's riffing off on so it's funny electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #222

Yes, old Gaius Julius had a slightly different version DFW Apr 2023 #224

I went there a few times too mcar Apr 2023 #205

I hadn't looked in a long while DFW Apr 2023 #223

They trusted people they should not have and emotion replaced thinking. Facts are useless. betsuni Apr 2023 #219

Emotion replaced thinking: exactly so. DFW Apr 2023 #225

Yes, Cha Apr 2023 #196

+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #168

No one is denigrating Democrats. And I expect all who are here in good faith will vote for Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #175

+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #178

Independents Win elections. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #82

+1, MAGA is underwater to the average voter though uponit7771 Apr 2023 #95

Not really. TwilightZone Apr 2023 #99

Well.. inthewind21 Apr 2023 #116

And I know several who skipped the Pres ballot line in '20 because of it. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #117

With all due respect inthewind21 Apr 2023 #122

You dont know how many people have similar stories. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #242

If they PM'd you are talking about DUer's? I hope not. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #184

Oh, no! Friends who were scared to openly admit he'd turned them off. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #241

+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #119

Same here. nt doc03 Apr 2023 #19

I'd hzard I have theose seem concerns abiut politicians under 30 Torchlight Apr 2023 #30

If anything happens, VP Harris, age 58 treestar Apr 2023 #62

The problem is that voters very likely pinkstarburst Apr 2023 #141

they voted in 2020 for her to be there to be President treestar Apr 2023 #154

So inthewind21 Apr 2023 #189

I don't know what the solution is pinkstarburst Apr 2023 #193

You get it. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #244

Thank you for framing that as you did. We just cant express any reservations. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #80

That is answering the question...well I believe you are wrong. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #172

Please Read This Article then.. Cha Apr 2023 #198

That's quite the campaign pitch- "Joe Biden is old get over it" RAB910 Apr 2023 #227

I say Please Read ON.. "he's Doing Cha Apr 2023 #238

I get it. I too have concerns ability ability politicians under 30 Torchlight Apr 2023 #229

I wonder... 2naSalit Apr 2023 #12

Yeah, those all worried about age.. Cha Apr 2023 #199

I good with him running again. CentralMass Apr 2023 #13

I really like Joe and will happily vote for him again. I wish Emile Apr 2023 #14

There is hope on that front, Delaware just legalized after years of punting the issue Walleye Apr 2023 #25

+1 good news indeed. Emile Apr 2023 #26

I have zero problem with JBiden running again WITH NoMoreRepugs Apr 2023 #15

I have major issues with him AntivaxHunters Apr 2023 #18

That's good, keep it to yourself, I think we've heard all about it Walleye Apr 2023 #27

Really? How not surprising. Well he will be the candidate so perhaps you should consider that. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #186

Good call. BannonsLiver Apr 2023 #243

I am 100% supportive of President Biden. dmr Apr 2023 #23

I love Biden...and will happily vote for him. We are lucky to have him. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #33

I hope Biden gets the chance True Blue American Apr 2023 #70

Buddy Sage! jcgoldie Apr 2023 #34

huh? Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 #36

But he sage..... (wise). MrsCoffee Apr 2023 #46

"but his age" "buddy sage" Scrivener7 Apr 2023 #155

Our horse-race-loving, oligarchy-complicit media loves this discussion. hay rick Apr 2023 #37

Amen! True Blue American Apr 2023 #71

Age is a factor but inflation and the economy will decide the election. At this time inflation doc03 Apr 2023 #38

Abortion will decide this election. Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #53

+1 The Supreme Ct baked abortion into every election bronxiteforever Apr 2023 #65

There are plenty of pissed off men, too. wryter2000 Apr 2023 #101

Excellent point! nt Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #105

So, inthewind21 Apr 2023 #120

Get the house back, keep the senate and Biden signs Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #164

And inthewind21 Apr 2023 #190

The legislation will have a much stronger legal basis than Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #207

This! And the Men Who Support Them. electric_blue68 Apr 2023 #160

This time IS a bit different. Very low UE. Inflation IS coming down slowly. oldsoftie Apr 2023 #102

hear , hear. AllaN01Bear Apr 2023 #41

I could not be more enthusiastic about having Joe Biden run for re-election. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #43

LOL am I actually supposed to answer this honestly AkFemDem Apr 2023 #45

:snort: Stinky The Clown Apr 2023 #47

well you did treestar Apr 2023 #78

The Republicans cannot and will not run a suitable candidate because they have none, jaxexpat Apr 2023 #49

Well inthewind21 Apr 2023 #121

Biden saying he is running again brings a sence of calmness and stability that the USA needs riversedge Apr 2023 #50

I think it doesn't matter what anyone thinks Sympthsical Apr 2023 #55

I'm glad Joe's running again - look at everything he's accomplished! Talitha Apr 2023 #56

Look at what he's done DownriverDem Apr 2023 #59

2024 gives the GOP a great Senate map bronxiteforever Apr 2023 #60

Biden has delivered in enormous ways dlk Apr 2023 #61

Mixed Feelings. Happy Hoosier Apr 2023 #64

No he doesn't "Stutter from foot & Cha Apr 2023 #200

I didn't say stutter. Happy Hoosier Apr 2023 #208

Sorry, my eyes are bad & Cha Apr 2023 #211

Thanks. I basically agree. Happy Hoosier Apr 2023 #214

Thank You! Cha Apr 2023 #215

He is the most successful, most liberal president of the last half century mcar Apr 2023 #206

IMO, he sometimes pulls his punches. Happy Hoosier Apr 2023 #209

One bad health event away from being fucked. Wingus Dingus Apr 2023 #72

Isn't everyone ? DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #152

That's ridiculous. Pres Joe Biden has Cha Apr 2023 #201

I have some bad news BannonsLiver Apr 2023 #236

Lets face it, we aren't really allowed to answer this question but one way on this site ripcord Apr 2023 #73

It's been answered several different ways in this thread. TwilightZone Apr 2023 #87

I look at it like this... sagetea Apr 2023 #74

"his administration is diverse and younger" needs to be mentioned more. Are people forgetting this? betsuni Apr 2023 #118

I want whoever will have the best chance of beating the MAGA Taliban Q fascists! Initech Apr 2023 #75

I'm happy Biden is running karin_sj Apr 2023 #76

If he gets the nomination, I'll vote for him. apcalc Apr 2023 #77

If he gets the nomination? mcar Apr 2023 #112

Fair question....we shall see. Candidates declare, people have to vote in primaries etc apcalc Apr 2023 #130

No legitimate Democrat is going to primary the sitting president of their party mcar Apr 2023 #136

Gee nowforever Apr 2023 #79

He's set us on the right course JustAnotherGen Apr 2023 #81

Wisdom and Experience djacq Apr 2023 #84

He's been a great president wryter2000 Apr 2023 #86

Exactly the same way I felt about him when I supported him in the highplainsdem Apr 2023 #88

Name one prominent Democrat who could run randr Apr 2023 #89

The thing is... Biden is the incumbent US president. mwooldri Apr 2023 #92

I'll dance with the one who brought me to the party. StClone Apr 2023 #93

He's done fine and he's the incumbent. TwilightZone Apr 2023 #97

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2023 #107

Biden/Harris '24! mcar Apr 2023 #109

Biden has done a great job. Aging occurs at different rates for people and should not be an issue andym Apr 2023 #111

Biden is amazing ismnotwasm Apr 2023 #113

"No one fucks with a Biden." betsuni Apr 2023 #133

Every rational person I've asked "what then should be the absolute age limit? Torchlight Apr 2023 #138

I Trust NowISeetheLight Apr 2023 #139

I would vote for a ham sandwich over a repuke Skittles Apr 2023 #146

I am completely fine with President Biden running again. BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2023 #147

I want our Democratic nominee for President to be the person who Martin Eden Apr 2023 #148

Who should voters consider? Someone with experience or doesn't have a clue? LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #150

I'M WITH JOE ALL THE WAY!!!! DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #153

Joe is our best candidate, period. LudwigPastorius Apr 2023 #161

I dream of a Biden Presidency with a Senate majority made up of Roisin Ni Fiachra Apr 2023 #167

I'm grateful we have him. Nt Hortensis Apr 2023 #191

Yes! Trump much easier to beat than desantis. Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #195

Ridin' with Biden LOLarkey Apr 2023 #212

For anyone that listens to stephanie miller edisdead Apr 2023 #216

I have no worries. roamer65 Apr 2023 #221

I have two words for those who think that Biden is "Too Old" Deep State Witch Apr 2023 #233

I'm riding with Biden nt XanaDUer2 Apr 2023 #234

I just want to know who Joe picked to cover Tree Lady Apr 2023 #239

They want to make this race about fitness for office? Game on. LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #246

We have 11M job openings JustAnotherGen May 2023 #251