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AndyS

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33. Again you're jacking with the numbers.

Mon May 1, 2023, 03:36 PM

May 2023

You are singling our a tiny % of people (CC holders) and comparing tem to the population at large. I could do the same with people who have toenail fungus.

Meanwhile a 2023 review by the RAND Corporation concluded there is supportive evidence that shall-issue concealed carry laws are associated with increased firearm homicides and total homicides. In other words when it is easier to get a CC the homicide rate increases. I assume easier = more. https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR2088-1.html

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Want to carry a gun? Come to Florida. (Or a few other red states.) [View all] Cyrano May 2023 OP

my baby brother lives in Houston and his biggest fear is getting shot just for breathing CatWoman May 2023 #1

Totally can relate ..... anciano May 2023 #5

Isn't that Tom DeLay country? CatWoman May 2023 #21

Yes, from 1985 to 2006. anciano May 2023 #25

In addition, moondust May 2023 #2

Registration is being miss used there. thatdemguy May 2023 #7

What about the countless guns bought at gun "shows?" Cyrano May 2023 #9

Even gun shows that have gun stores there have to do the same paperwork. thatdemguy May 2023 #15

And the ghost guns? moondust May 2023 #11

see my previous reply thatdemguy May 2023 #16

Federal registration of guns is forbidden by law NickB79 May 2023 #35

Oh yes. moondust May 2023 #40

Actually 26 states. thatdemguy May 2023 #3

Link to statistics? Cyrano May 2023 #8

I cant fine the exact one I was shown but thatdemguy May 2023 #13

Well, ya' see there's a flaw in that. If you limit it to AndyS May 2023 #19

No that is not how it worked thatdemguy May 2023 #22

That's the result I get when I search for law abiding citizens who commit murder. 0. AndyS May 2023 #26

well per this washington post article its 2 out of 10 gun crimes are legal gun owners. thatdemguy May 2023 #31

Again you're jacking with the numbers. AndyS May 2023 #33

well considering the this thread was about carrying a gun, then I thatdemguy May 2023 #50

Okay, let me leave all the snark aside. AndyS May 2023 #55

Nobody should be walking around with a gun and other than for hunting and target Bev54 May 2023 #45

This is right up there with make drugs illegal thatdemguy May 2023 #52

The number of people killed by guns in the US invalidates that argument Bev54 May 2023 #54

I believe the number of states with permit less carry sarisataka May 2023 #4

Yep and they all seem to see an increase of 10-15% in homicides in the two years following AndyS May 2023 #20

From what I was shown that thatdemguy May 2023 #27

Nope it's the guns. AndyS May 2023 #28

If it was just the guns then the US should top the charts thatdemguy May 2023 #32

Okay comparing the US to countries with open rebellion is kinda' skewing the numbers AndyS May 2023 #36

I haven't seen a state by state breakdown sarisataka May 2023 #34

Soldiers are required to wear uniforms, movie cowboys wear white or black hats. usonian May 2023 #6

He always has a sneer and/or a cigarette holder? Cyrano May 2023 #10

Cigarettes will kill you if Bond doesn't. usonian May 2023 #24

16 y/olds can conceal carry w/o a permit in Vermont Kaleva May 2023 #12

So this makes carrying a concealed gun without a permit okay??? Cyrano May 2023 #14

Florida is stricter about gun control then Vermont yet no one blasts Vermont Kaleva May 2023 #23

There are outliers in all circumstances. The difference in most of them is that AndyS May 2023 #29

Neither Florida or Vermont are outliers. former9thward May 2023 #53

Well, Vermont which is the gunner touch stone is no great shakes. AndyS May 2023 #56

I am curious. What would be your answer? bronxiteforever May 2023 #39

Vermont is one of us and gets a pass. Kaleva May 2023 #57

Death Sentence living up to his name dickthegrouch May 2023 #17

Those states will become magnets for thosew who wish to do harm to others and get away with it. TheBlackAdder May 2023 #18

Yeah, they're never able to answer the 'how do the cops know you're not the shooter?' scenario. Aristus May 2023 #30

No, not anyone is allowed to carry (or even possess) a gun in FL HeartachesNhangovers May 2023 #37

If the bad guys can't carry guns, then why do the "good guys" think they need to carry. Bev54 May 2023 #44

The OP is about a new law eliminating the permit requirement to carry a concealed firearm. HeartachesNhangovers May 2023 #46

You can always spit the bad guys. James48 May 2023 #38

My state ForgedCrank May 2023 #41

Disney World or no Disney World, who the hell wants to take their kids to Florida? Bev54 May 2023 #42

Parents who want them to see the Everglades - one of the greatest natural areas in the US. HeartachesNhangovers May 2023 #47

As I am Canadian, I don't find the reward worth the risk. Bev54 May 2023 #48

That's actually funny since (as you may know), thousands and thousands of Canadians HeartachesNhangovers May 2023 #51

I do know a lot of snowbirds from Canada go down to Florida, but I will not put my Bev54 May 2023 #59

The Deer Hunter one of the greatest movies of all time. I hate what SC has done to our country. NJ Pepsidog May 2023 #43

We have posters right here on DU who think they are that good guy with a gun. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #49

That's my experience with gun carriers as well ecstatic May 2023 #58