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elocs

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30. If the 14th Amendment is such a simple solution to the debt ceiling problem,

Sun May 21, 2023, 10:41 AM

May 2023

Biden would have done it by now. But he doesn't believe it is and he must have trusted advisors who tell him it's not a simple solution. Lots of smart people are on both sides of using the 14th. But if he does use it, then we will find out if it was the answer or not. I'm not sure if it is but I'm willing to admit I was wrong about it. But will all who are crowing about to just use it, no problems, be willing to admit they were wrong if it does not go well? I doubt it.

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Biden Says He Has Authority to Use 14th Amendment [View all] applegrove May 2023 OP

Just make sure the chain is set up so that the neocon runners can't get their request MutantAndProud May 2023 #1

Yes he does. There is no reason for him not to use it. These games are getting ridiculous. Autumn May 2023 #2

Seniors, Republicans don't want you to get your Social Security and are willing to go to the Supreme Walleye May 2023 #3

Couldn't agree more Rebl2 May 2023 #24

They are not screaming about it because they are counting on the Democrats to pull their Walleye May 2023 #32

Those R constituents have been told wnylib May 2023 #36

Go dark Brandon ... Trump and the GOP ran up this debt and this is just about paying the bills. Botany May 2023 #4

If Biden can use the 14th Amendment as he believes, elocs May 2023 #5

But Roe was not a ratified amendment, the 14th is Captain Zero May 2023 #14

None of which authorizes additional borrowing Shrek May 2023 #18

Which is what has to be covered SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #38

When is the debt "incurred"? Dave says May 2023 #44

If the debt hasn't been incurred, would we be threatened with default? SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #48

If the Supreme Court rejects the 14th Amendment, Biden should ignore them Marius25 May 2023 #16

It is an amendment. The court has no role in this...but this is what happened when Roosevelt Demsrule86 May 2023 #19

The Court absolutely has the right to interpret an amendment Sympthsical May 2023 #33

Hear, hear. What's Thomass going to do? peppertree May 2023 #23

do it eShirl May 2023 #6

Yep. Just do it. calimary May 2023 #29

The 14th Ammendment says he has the autority, too. nt Gore1FL May 2023 #7

Hi! How are you...and you are right...he has the authority and I believe the duty to do this and Demsrule86 May 2023 #21

"....enemies, foreign and domestic..." Turbineguy May 2023 #8

That's not part of the presidential oath. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2023 #10

True, but it certainly describes these times. calimary May 2023 #27

House GOP will NEVER vote to lift the debt ceiling... 617Blue May 2023 #9

Don't Think You Can Do It. Don't Question It. In The Spirit Of The Company Nike...... global1 May 2023 #11

All though Phil Knight most like sides with the republicans on this one. CentralMass May 2023 #25

Joe, quit fucking around a do it. Stop trying to play Mr. Nice guy with fascist. Hotler May 2023 #12

Pres Biden is NOT 'fucking around".. he Cha May 2023 #45

..... Hotler May 2023 #50

I have a dumb question.......... Takket May 2023 #13

Invoke it now and stamp a Brazillion dollar coin. Captain Zero May 2023 #15

Brazilian $1 is only worth 20 cents US... jcgoldie May 2023 #22

Every Republican boss said this to me when they wanted to do something g questionable... LakeArenal May 2023 #39

Federal courts do not issue advisory opinions. tritsofme May 2023 #49

If the 14th amendment is invoked the SC should circumvent the appeal process, and decide JohnSJ May 2023 #17

You mean the Shadow Docket deal? no_hypocrisy May 2023 #20

They already do it for a lot of things. The best chance though is a discharge petition, and find 5 JohnSJ May 2023 #40

They already do it for a lot of things. The best chance though is a discharge petition, and find 5 JohnSJ May 2023 #41

Biden is shrewd and I'd bet he rarely goes where he doesn't know the answer bucolic_frolic May 2023 #26

This is Biden's compromise. Freethinker65 May 2023 #28

If the 14th Amendment is such a simple solution to the debt ceiling problem, elocs May 2023 #30

Between a rock and a hard place EndlessWire May 2023 #47

Biden is playing this brilliantly. ancianita May 2023 #31

If they can ignore the 14th amendment, we can ignore the second amendment, so there Walleye May 2023 #34

Sometimes "I think... caveat caveat" is ineffective politically. David__77 May 2023 #35

Invoke at the 11th Hour Marthe48 May 2023 #37

The Repubs will impeach him Dave says May 2023 #42

Biden can, and should, ignore the GOP's debt suicide attempt usonian May 2023 #43

The 14th Amendment is a law the GOP is gnoring. ZonkerHarris May 2023 #46