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Marius25

(3,213 posts) Tue Jun 13, 2023, 04:42 PM Jun 2023

For those saying there's no reason for Trump to be detained [View all]

Just a reminder, Jack Texeira is being held in prison without bail for showing his friends classified documents (documents far less secret than what Trump had).

So what is the legal argument that Texeira was detained without bail, but Trump isn't?

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For those saying there's no reason for Trump to be detained [View all] Marius25 Jun 2023 OP

Bail is intended to guarantee someone shows up for Court. WarGamer Jun 2023 #1

That's not the only reason. He's a threat to the community and national security Marius25 Jun 2023 #2

Apparently the Court and the DoJ doesn't agree. WarGamer Jun 2023 #6

Well, I wouldn't trust the Courts as far as I can throw them. Marius25 Jun 2023 #8

I don't know if I 100% agree with your sentiment... TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #14

Ack to square one... brooklynite Jun 2023 #34

And, I guess, you don't trust Smith either. onenote Jun 2023 #84

Smith isn't Superman. He's a good prosecutor, but he can't stop a corrupt judicial system Marius25 Jun 2023 #85

Except you seem to be suggesting he's corrupt since he didn't demand Trump be held without bail onenote Jun 2023 #86

I never suggested any such thing. Marius25 Jun 2023 #87

You and I aren't a former president. onenote Jun 2023 #88

Being a former president should have nothing to do with it Marius25 Jun 2023 #89

So you don't think there should be any discretion to treat different situations differently? onenote Jun 2023 #90

We do not have Pre-Crime in this country obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #9

Again, why was Jack Texeira denied bail for the same crimes? Marius25 Jun 2023 #11

Because he is a flight risk -- folks keep telling you that obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #16

Because they weren't the same crimes? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #23

Because inthewind21 Jun 2023 #24

He is not a former President of the US Darwins_Retriever Jun 2023 #70

Exactly - he was charged under the espionage act was he not? Disaffected Jun 2023 #10

Sure inthewind21 Jun 2023 #25

Do we really know how much control the SS Disaffected Jun 2023 #32

FFS ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #60

FFS, you are missing the point. Disaffected Jun 2023 #67

So inthewind21 Jun 2023 #76

You can smack your head if you like but, Disaffected Jun 2023 #77

Of course inthewind21 Jun 2023 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Disaffected Jun 2023 #35

How is he a present threat to the community? onenote Jun 2023 #47

Right. H2O Man Jun 2023 #82

I've been wondering why the Rosenbergs got death for less than the Slob. TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #3

Different charges... WarGamer Jun 2023 #7

And different times. TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #12

Yup, and Ethel especially shouldn't have been charged obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #17

Because rightly or wrongly they were convicted of a capital crime onenote Jun 2023 #48

The Rosenberg's committed actual espionage... brooklynite Jun 2023 #75

I believe Reality Winner also never got bail. CanonRay Jun 2023 #4

Absolutely Dave says Jun 2023 #13

She was deemed a flight risk obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #15

lol inthewind21 Jun 2023 #26

This thread is driving me crazy lol obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #42

That too ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #61

No, he can get on his jet CanonRay Jun 2023 #28

You don't just get on a jet and leave lol obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #41

He can't???? TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #45

Yes, it is -- you do not just get in a jet and leave obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #49

Then tell us what would stop him TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #57

Because flight plans aren't a five minute thing ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #63

So, tell us then the legal basis Disaffected Jun 2023 #68

Because HE'S UNDER EFFING INDICTMENT! inthewind21 Jun 2023 #72

Yes, WITH NO PASSPORT OR TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS! Disaffected Jun 2023 #78

Thank you -- I just had to stop explaining this stuff yesterday obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #79

It's way inthewind21 Jun 2023 #81

Why not? Disaffected Jun 2023 #52

Sorry, I just don't understand your logic. CanonRay Jun 2023 #54

Its the same fucking faith/belief in norms and lack of imagination.... TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #58

Yes, faith and belief, Disaffected Jun 2023 #71

That he has to land somewhere ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #64

So he flies to Iceland to refuel CanonRay Jun 2023 #66

Because he is not a flight risk obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #5

I would argue he possesses the means to get away.... TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #19

That has nothing to do with it (ie the means) obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #21

and the SS detail would be a giveaway prodigitalson Jun 2023 #38

Yup, and you can't just get on a plane and just fly obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #43

Why couldn't he? TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #46

he is literally surrounded by federal agents prodigitalson Jun 2023 #50

.. That were hand selected by him. TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #56

Huh inthewind21 Jun 2023 #73

You state he is not a flight risk, Disaffected Jun 2023 #53

Trump can't quietly slip away, no, but there's nothing to stop him from blatantly leaving... Silent3 Jun 2023 #69

Sigh. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #65

I know it's a discredited notion, but keep your powder dry gratuitous Jun 2023 #18

Yup, terrific answer obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #20

2-tier justice system republianmushroom Jun 2023 #22

Nope inthewind21 Jun 2023 #27

I disagree with you. republianmushroom Jun 2023 #29

See post #30 Kaleva Jun 2023 #31

Still disagree with you republianmushroom Jun 2023 #33

You are factual wrong obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #40

That's a healthy attitude Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2023 #55

Disagree inthewind21 Jun 2023 #74

DOJ's 'fantastic' red carpet: The Trump case vs. the Reality Winner case - All In - MSNBC republianmushroom Jun 2023 #91

It really is not unusual for the Feds obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #39

It seems that those complaining that his release without bail, mug shot and handcuffs onenote Jun 2023 #51

Many others were not denied bail Kaleva Jun 2023 #30

Jack Texeira doesn't have a team of cops going everywhere he goes prodigitalson Jun 2023 #36

Money, money, money, money, orthoclad Jun 2023 #37

Let's see: onenote Jun 2023 #44

I think there is a distinction between the means to run and the incentive to run TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #59

What I worry about is he still Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #62

Yes, that's why (for both reasons) he should be Disaffected Jun 2023 #83