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Fiendish Thingy

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46. The big tobacco (and Sackler family opioid case) were civil, not criminal

Wed Jun 14, 2023, 10:05 AM

Jun 2023

Big difference.

No way Trump takes a plea deal on docs, sedition and at least two state cases combined.

It’s just not going to happen the way you described it.

Separate plea bargains for charges remaining after he loses in 2024 are a slim possibility, less likely than a pardon from a Republican president. I can see Trump cutting a deal with DeSantis for a Pardon if he drops out of the race before he would cut a deal with Smith.

I can’t see all of these prosecutors agreeing to absolutely no prison time, especially DOJ if it’s still under Democratic control.

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Trump will plea out of all of his indictments. [View all] Yavin4 Jun 2023 OP

He could never comply with No. 3 or No. 6 so no deal Lettuce Be Jun 2023 #1

Agree NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #21

He won't plead. He doesn't think that way. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #2

We're talking stolen nuclear secrets. C_U_L8R Jun 2023 #3

7. Prohibited from using social media either directly or through surrogates. TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #4

Doubt it. They made a mistake by not taking Nixon down. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #5

Trump has never apologized for anything in his life Blaukraut Jun 2023 #6

Right? Cosmocat Jun 2023 #25

Correct, the list above is bull. The Con's pride and petulence will never allow it. onetexan Jun 2023 #39

Nope H2O Man Jun 2023 #7

Lol uppityperson Jun 2023 #8

Rachel, is that you? gab13by13 Jun 2023 #9

I think the chance that he admits to anything is exactly zero. TwilightZone Jun 2023 #10

He's not gonna pay and will never issue a public apology. live love laugh Jun 2023 #11

I don't think that that is the way the law works. Probation and fines, sure, Chainfire Jun 2023 #12

He does not want to go to jail. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #14

You're inthewind21 Jun 2023 #51

It does feel eventual, huh? Johonny Jun 2023 #13

He cannot beat these charges. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #15

I don't see how he beats them malaise Jun 2023 #43

Not gonna happen stumpysbear Jun 2023 #16

No he will not. Totally contrary to his personality and his history. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #17

Correct Cosmocat Jun 2023 #27

No freaking way CanonRay Jun 2023 #18

He will not keep any of those. Especially number 6. It's not in him. debm55 Jun 2023 #19

No way in hell is this going to happen. hamsterjill Jun 2023 #20

Correct Cosmocat Jun 2023 #28

So will DOJ demand that NY and Georgia drop their prosecutions? gab13by13 Jun 2023 #22

It will be a joint plea deal. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #23

Never seen Trump before? jcgoldie Jun 2023 #24

I saw him settle the Trump University suit for $25 million tinrobot Jun 2023 #31

that deal did not involve him stfu jcgoldie Jun 2023 #37

he writes checks to get out of things. His ego will not allow him to complete the OP list. ZonkerHarris Jun 2023 #38

only plea deal he will accept lapfog_1 Jun 2023 #26

His goal will be to destroy the United States. roamer65 Jun 2023 #29

Not likely Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #30

It will be a blanket plea deal for all criminal indictments. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #32

Courts don't work that way. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #35

State AGs and the DOJ often work together on blanket plea deals. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #36

The big tobacco (and Sackler family opioid case) were civil, not criminal Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #46

You really believe that? Zero chance of it happening. W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #33

It's either plea or go to jail. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #34

Maybe, but zero chance the plea involves anything political. W_HAMILTON Jun 2023 #44

Not running for office will be spun as a way to protect the nation. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #45

Remember, this is a guy who lost money on casinos and went bankrupt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #48

"Loose" Cannon N.I.4.N.I.2023 Jun 2023 #40

I know Jack Smith has a plan. marble falls Jun 2023 #42

I have a feeling her ruling won't be the be-all-end-all in this case.... Blue Owl Jun 2023 #49

Nope. He's incapable of admitting or taking blame for his own behavior. Plus, he is convinced hlthe2b Jun 2023 #41

3 seems unreasonable. Renew Deal Jun 2023 #47

Huh inthewind21 Jun 2023 #50