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Disaffected

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78. Yes, WITH NO PASSPORT OR TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS!

Wed Jun 14, 2023, 12:28 PM

Jun 2023

Is there a US law that says one cannot leave the country when having been charged with a criminal offense and in the absence of court imposed passport or travel restrictions? If so, please cite it.

Good grief.

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For those saying there's no reason for Trump to be detained [View all] Marius25 Jun 2023 OP

Bail is intended to guarantee someone shows up for Court. WarGamer Jun 2023 #1

That's not the only reason. He's a threat to the community and national security Marius25 Jun 2023 #2

Apparently the Court and the DoJ doesn't agree. WarGamer Jun 2023 #6

Well, I wouldn't trust the Courts as far as I can throw them. Marius25 Jun 2023 #8

I don't know if I 100% agree with your sentiment... TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #14

Ack to square one... brooklynite Jun 2023 #34

And, I guess, you don't trust Smith either. onenote Jun 2023 #84

Smith isn't Superman. He's a good prosecutor, but he can't stop a corrupt judicial system Marius25 Jun 2023 #85

Except you seem to be suggesting he's corrupt since he didn't demand Trump be held without bail onenote Jun 2023 #86

I never suggested any such thing. Marius25 Jun 2023 #87

You and I aren't a former president. onenote Jun 2023 #88

Being a former president should have nothing to do with it Marius25 Jun 2023 #89

So you don't think there should be any discretion to treat different situations differently? onenote Jun 2023 #90

We do not have Pre-Crime in this country obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #9

Again, why was Jack Texeira denied bail for the same crimes? Marius25 Jun 2023 #11

Because he is a flight risk -- folks keep telling you that obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #16

Because they weren't the same crimes? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #23

Because inthewind21 Jun 2023 #24

He is not a former President of the US Darwins_Retriever Jun 2023 #70

Exactly - he was charged under the espionage act was he not? Disaffected Jun 2023 #10

Sure inthewind21 Jun 2023 #25

Do we really know how much control the SS Disaffected Jun 2023 #32

FFS ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #60

FFS, you are missing the point. Disaffected Jun 2023 #67

So inthewind21 Jun 2023 #76

You can smack your head if you like but, Disaffected Jun 2023 #77

Of course inthewind21 Jun 2023 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Disaffected Jun 2023 #35

How is he a present threat to the community? onenote Jun 2023 #47

Right. H2O Man Jun 2023 #82

I've been wondering why the Rosenbergs got death for less than the Slob. TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #3

Different charges... WarGamer Jun 2023 #7

And different times. TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #12

Yup, and Ethel especially shouldn't have been charged obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #17

Because rightly or wrongly they were convicted of a capital crime onenote Jun 2023 #48

The Rosenberg's committed actual espionage... brooklynite Jun 2023 #75

I believe Reality Winner also never got bail. CanonRay Jun 2023 #4

Absolutely Dave says Jun 2023 #13

She was deemed a flight risk obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #15

lol inthewind21 Jun 2023 #26

This thread is driving me crazy lol obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #42

That too ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #61

No, he can get on his jet CanonRay Jun 2023 #28

You don't just get on a jet and leave lol obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #41

He can't???? TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #45

Yes, it is -- you do not just get in a jet and leave obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #49

Then tell us what would stop him TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #57

Because flight plans aren't a five minute thing ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #63

So, tell us then the legal basis Disaffected Jun 2023 #68

Because HE'S UNDER EFFING INDICTMENT! inthewind21 Jun 2023 #72

Yes, WITH NO PASSPORT OR TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS! Disaffected Jun 2023 #78

Thank you -- I just had to stop explaining this stuff yesterday obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #79

It's way inthewind21 Jun 2023 #81

Why not? Disaffected Jun 2023 #52

Sorry, I just don't understand your logic. CanonRay Jun 2023 #54

Its the same fucking faith/belief in norms and lack of imagination.... TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #58

Yes, faith and belief, Disaffected Jun 2023 #71

That he has to land somewhere ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #64

So he flies to Iceland to refuel CanonRay Jun 2023 #66

Because he is not a flight risk obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #5

I would argue he possesses the means to get away.... TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #19

That has nothing to do with it (ie the means) obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #21

and the SS detail would be a giveaway prodigitalson Jun 2023 #38

Yup, and you can't just get on a plane and just fly obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #43

Why couldn't he? TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #46

he is literally surrounded by federal agents prodigitalson Jun 2023 #50

.. That were hand selected by him. TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #56

Huh inthewind21 Jun 2023 #73

You state he is not a flight risk, Disaffected Jun 2023 #53

Trump can't quietly slip away, no, but there's nothing to stop him from blatantly leaving... Silent3 Jun 2023 #69

Sigh. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #65

I know it's a discredited notion, but keep your powder dry gratuitous Jun 2023 #18

Yup, terrific answer obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #20

2-tier justice system republianmushroom Jun 2023 #22

Nope inthewind21 Jun 2023 #27

I disagree with you. republianmushroom Jun 2023 #29

See post #30 Kaleva Jun 2023 #31

Still disagree with you republianmushroom Jun 2023 #33

You are factual wrong obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #40

That's a healthy attitude Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2023 #55

Disagree inthewind21 Jun 2023 #74

DOJ's 'fantastic' red carpet: The Trump case vs. the Reality Winner case - All In - MSNBC republianmushroom Jun 2023 #91

It really is not unusual for the Feds obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #39

It seems that those complaining that his release without bail, mug shot and handcuffs onenote Jun 2023 #51

Many others were not denied bail Kaleva Jun 2023 #30

Jack Texeira doesn't have a team of cops going everywhere he goes prodigitalson Jun 2023 #36

Money, money, money, money, orthoclad Jun 2023 #37

Let's see: onenote Jun 2023 #44

I think there is a distinction between the means to run and the incentive to run TheRealNorth Jun 2023 #59

What I worry about is he still Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #62

Yes, that's why (for both reasons) he should be Disaffected Jun 2023 #83