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Elessar Zappa

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41. The Nation?

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Wed Jun 14, 2023, 07:12 PM

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The Western Media Is Whitewashing the Azov Battalion [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 OP

We also partnered with Stalin in WWII. War and politics make strange bedfellows. Ray Bruns Jun 2023 #1

Exactly. All movements for freedom radius777 Jun 2023 #43

Except we are not at war. former9thward Jun 2023 #56

Lend Lease Act provided munitions, food, and fuel to Moscow prior to Torchlight Jun 2023 #71

The Lend Lease Act required payback becuause of neutrality. former9thward Jun 2023 #72

Of the $68 billion US provided to Ukraine to date Torchlight Jun 2023 #73

Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe. former9thward Jun 2023 #75

Nor was the US when it provided Lend Lease to Russia as I stated before. Torchlight Jun 2023 #76

The west is in a proxy war with Russia. radius777 Jun 2023 #89

Maybe FDR didn't expect repayment but Congress did. former9thward Jun 2023 #90

Link, please??? niyad Jun 2023 #2

added WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #3

Thank you. niyad Jun 2023 #4

Didn't Azov change a lot by time the war started? uponit7771 Jun 2023 #5

According to the article, no; that's the whitewash. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #6

It's War: These People Are Fit To Die As Anyone Else The Magistrate Jun 2023 #7

Side by side fighting common enemy, Nazis and Democracy lovers alike? No thanks!? Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #12

I Really Don't Care, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2023 #17

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #65

The Enemy of Our Enemy Deep State Witch Jun 2023 #8

A neonazi is already my enemy, but what the hell do I know, I guess WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #9

They are Nazis. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #11

A Better Phrasing, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2023 #18

Or, Ma'am ... A Leopard can not change its spots. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #21

Well said, Sir. People have a really hard time parsing that thought, though Hekate Jun 2023 #45

+1. "We must all hang together, or most assuredly radius777 Jun 2023 #46

This is the correct answer Red Mountain Jun 2023 #51

I don't like Nazis. These guys are Nazis...NEVER my friend!, Never. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #10

You must REALLY hate Putin and his fascist goons then, right? Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #24

Let us never forget who kicks up the dirt the most about anything Ukraine and that is Putin Bev54 Jun 2023 #30

The Nation also pro Putin? Lol...Facts can be annoying, don't avoid, that's what Fox viewers do! Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #63

I follow the Ukraine war daily, with many different outlets outside of the US. Bev54 Jun 2023 #67

No one can deny Asov are Nazis. Evil. Evil is never my friend. Simple. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #78

We should absolutely worry about this... ExciteBike66 Jun 2023 #13

Then they become Nazis again? So a temporary fascist hating pause? Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #14

So what is the solution here, ExciteBike66 Jun 2023 #15

Do you have any problem whatsoever with the Nazis in Putin's military? Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #32

Ok but like what if, in the meantime, we simply didn't let neonazis go on press tours in the U.S. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #16

Sure, the politicians should just stick to official ExciteBike66 Jun 2023 #19

The Western media needed some events in the West to assist with the whitewashing of Nazis. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #20

And do you have any problem with the whitewashing of Putin by some Republicans? Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #23

It's been well-known that Azov is teeming with Nazis. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #22

Not sure why "don't bring neonazis to the States for press tours and visits with congresspeople WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #25

So press U.S. press tours featuring Azov is a big issue right now? Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #26

Normalizing neonazis and their rhetoric in public is absolutely a big issue right now. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #27

Of course it shouldn't be normalized. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #31

. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #34

So do you support U.S. support of Ukraine's war against Putin's invasion? Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #35

If I gave the right answer, would you believe me? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #37

Lol. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #38

+10000. Nailed it, my friend, well done. radius777 Jun 2023 #48

I Would Believe Your Answer, Whether It Was One I Expected Or Not The Magistrate Jun 2023 #57

The author has been a critic... Happy Hoosier Jun 2023 #28

The Nation is a Putinite rag. BannonsLiver Jun 2023 #33

Even this article admits the "Ukraine filled with Nazis!" is a lie used to justify the invasion. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #36

No. Disagree with one article and a national liberal media treasure is trash? No. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #60

You obviously know nothing about its recent history. BannonsLiver Jun 2023 #68

History of? And evidence of this history? A bow without an arrow. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #77

I don't think anyone has whitewashed the Azovs, it was known since the start of the war who they Bev54 Jun 2023 #29

I'll trust the President of Ukraine to deal with this, after the war is won NickB79 Jun 2023 #39

Thankfully, the relevant people realize Azov battalion does not represent the Ukrainian military. Torchlight Jun 2023 #40

The Nation? Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #41

Of course the majority here on DU believe... Xolodno Jun 2023 #42

Russia attacked and invaded Ukraine. Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #44

Yes they did. Xolodno Jun 2023 #47

The context is that Putin has finally let the Russian mask slip and openly embarked on genocide. Emrys Jun 2023 #92

Exactly. nt Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #88

The war IS black and white, anything else is blaming the victim. radius777 Jun 2023 #49

Demonstrated my point, perfectly. Xolodno Jun 2023 #52

I choose not to further Kremlin narratives. radius777 Jun 2023 #53

Again you demonstrate my point. Xolodno Jun 2023 #58

"It's becoming accepted that Ukraine blew up the Nordstream 1 and 2 pipelines." Emrys Jun 2023 #93

Classic Begging the Question. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #97

In Trumpspeak "Some people say/a lot of people are saying ..." n/t Emrys Jun 2023 #98

Information cones of silence are comforting if don't want to be bombarded with facts! Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #61

Exactly. nt Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #87

Actually this is pretty much as black and white as a war can get. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #69

Organized Nazi militia isn't individual combatants any more than a national army is. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #79

Asov Battalion has since been absorbed into the national army. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #80

That's how whitewashing works, do the washing, then take out the clean laundry and use it. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #82

The situation speaks for itself. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #84

UK is led by Nazis as much as America...it isn't...but welcoming openly Nazis?? NO! Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #94

It's not the same as the Proud Boys Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #96

Nazis love other Nazis, American or Ukrainian. I am assuming. Others, shouldn't. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #100

What a transparently apologetic thread for Russia. harumph Jun 2023 #50

LOL leftstreet Jun 2023 #55

If you can't see the problem here... Happy Hoosier Jun 2023 #64

Oh, I see the problem n/t leftstreet Jun 2023 #66

It's fortunate that liberals don't succumb so easily to mass propaganda. Do they? Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #83

The Michael Moore crowd did the same thing in Iraq Azathoth Jun 2023 #54

All this concern about Ukraines tiny number of white nationalsits is so precious BootinUp Jun 2023 #59

Tiny number of white fascist nationalists attempted a coup ...in what country!? Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #62

Ukraine isn't as bad as the USA isn't the win you seem to assume it is. Emrys Jun 2023 #99

Their country was invaded, their ethnicity denied, their people betrayed... Bucky Jun 2023 #70

Well said. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #74

Lets look at the far right nationalist party in Ukraine: EX500rider Jun 2023 #81

Hell, it wasn't even true in 2014 when they brought out this same talking point. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #85

Everything old is new again. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #86

Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2023 #91

We have Nazis in our own military also JI7 Jun 2023 #95

Not openly. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #101