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Bicoastal

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19. Ha! Thomas Jefferson was so two-faced...

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:26 PM

Nov 2012

...when he became President, he used extra-ordinary federal power to double the size of the country, which in no way was permitted by the Constitution. It was popular with the rest of the country, so no one was able to successfully call him on his hypocrisy.

Many thought him a tyrant (like Federalists, for one; like his own Monticello slaves, for another), but I doubt he would have been pleased to have the Tree of Liberty watered by his own blue blood. And knowing his adherence to the Alien and Sedition Acts, I doubt he would have permitted a single rebel state to secede against the US on his watch.

In short, the writings of young Jefferson are not to be confused with the political leanings of old Jefferson. The most schizophrenic president we ever had.

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I had NO idea that Crazy Right-Wing Freeper types hate LINCOLN.... [View all] Bicoastal Nov 2012 OP

The far-right despises Lincoln with every bone in their body. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #1

Well then, before the presidency of Saint Ronald Reagan of Blessed Memory... Bicoastal Nov 2012 #7

No, they also hate the Bushes. TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #20

Ahhh, the Treason Deniers. Taverner Nov 2012 #2

Aren't our founding fathers also traitors...by definition? davidn3600 Nov 2012 #16

Ha! Thomas Jefferson was so two-faced... Bicoastal Nov 2012 #19

Perhaps...but winners do write the history books Taverner Nov 2012 #52

of course they hate Lincoln graham4anything Nov 2012 #3

I wonder how they'd respond to the name Jefferson Davis aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #9

you just gave me a funny thought graham4anything Nov 2012 #14

Once they learn about him, they turn... Mike Nelson Nov 2012 #4

But they worship their dead actor Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #5

Which one? ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #43

Raygun Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #46

As I have often said... CanisCrocinus Nov 2012 #6

Heh, stealing and posting on FB! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #34

If it weren't for Lincoln AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #8

Lincoln was a founding member of the Sierra Club undeterred Nov 2012 #10

And he helped Les Paul with his first electric guitar. CrazyOrangeCat Nov 2012 #15

Freepers are, almost to the last one, Confederates and Confederate wannabes. They love Dixie and kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #11

Freepers love Jeffeson Davis. The repuke party reflects that. muntrv Nov 2012 #12

I hear all the time RegieRocker Nov 2012 #13

THIS is why today's MOONBAT ultra RADICAL TeaBag Crazyland GOP LOST the election and will LOSE more. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #17

I wonder if they hate him because he had something to do with freeing the slav..... gholtron Nov 2012 #18

AAAaaaand the truth comes out.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #21

I'm from the South, and let me give you some perspective piechartking Nov 2012 #22

"The War Of Northern Aggression" Aristus Nov 2012 #26

Haha well... piechartking Nov 2012 #35

Just call it the "War of Southern Treason" when talking to one of them. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #53

Any Southerner who calls it the "War of Northern Agression" is a fucking asshat idiot. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #36

Well it's just more evidence that Southerners are often out of step piechartking Nov 2012 #50

I'm sure Norquist thinks Lincoln is a poopyhead n/t flamingdem Nov 2012 #23

Agreed! freshwest Nov 2012 #31

Every member of the confederate hierarchy needed to hang. Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #24

I've seen that on other sites. Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #25

Lincoln's responsible for low flush toilets? NoGOPZone Nov 2012 #27

It's not surpising once you consider how the wingnuts back then viewed Lincoln... JHB Nov 2012 #28

I am a Civil War geek, and that is... MadrasT Nov 2012 #37

Appreciated! janx Nov 2012 #41

Why do republicans hate America? workinclasszero Nov 2012 #29

They NEVER stopped defending the Confederacy, hating Lincoln, Yankees, Carpetbaggers, Sherman... freshwest Nov 2012 #30

I have recently discovered that particular code/dog-whistle me b zola Nov 2012 #40

Ignorant racists hate minority groups. Sophisticated racists hate Lincoln. reformist2 Nov 2012 #32

In 1860 the Republicans were the Progressives, so of course they... Odin2005 Nov 2012 #33

Exactly. They only claim him when it is politically useful to do so. progressoid Nov 2012 #44

Lincoln? janx Nov 2012 #38

Lincoln used to have a male friend sleep in the same bed with him when he was away from his wife. TheBlackAdder Nov 2012 #39

And your point is what: janx Nov 2012 #42

Loy Mauch, Arkansas Lawmaker, Defended Slavery In Letters To The Editor SpartanDem Nov 2012 #45

Well, he was intelligent, self-educated, compassionate, resolute, strong, Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #47

Right wingers are still mad about the Emancipation Proclamation daleo Nov 2012 #48

Lincoln abolished slavery Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #49

Of course they hate him... mzteris Nov 2012 #51