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32. I'll blame the submersible company and "explorers," but I wouldn't totally discount

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Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:42 AM

Jun 2023

possibility of some "turf" protection by Coast Guard, or others, during the rescue.

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Life-saving equipment for Titanic sub search caught in red tape, Explorers Club says [View all] Effete Snob Jun 2023 OP

Looks like there shoulda been MORE 'red tape' EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #1

Absolutely! K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2023 #4

Hate to say this, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #2

Yes. People need to adjust their terminology as we're in a different phase now and likely have been. LonePirate Jun 2023 #12

Or else the vessel's structure failed suddenly under the pressure of the water Ocelot II Jun 2023 #35

Yep, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #36

It is the other edge of the big gubberment sword. Hugin Jun 2023 #3

self-imposed emergency WhiteTara Jun 2023 #5

This nt XanaDUer2 Jun 2023 #6

That's a bs attack, imho..... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #10

I believe that you have misunderstood my thought. Hugin Jun 2023 #16

I read your post and the one you're replying to as saying the same thing. yardwork Jun 2023 #18

These people might have been alive if there had been some "red tape" ensuring safety RAB910 Jun 2023 #7

Rich entitled jerks looking to blame everyone and everything Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #8

In this case, maybe an AI would have helped, because the humans were overpowered Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #9

At this point I'm thinking we should hand AI over to the orcas and Maru Kitteh Jun 2023 #27

There's an actual "Explorer's Club"? Deep State Witch Jun 2023 #11

or off the back of a kids' cereal box! nt TxGuitar Jun 2023 #13

I'm awaiting my secret decoder watch. nt ;-) Ilsa Jun 2023 #26

It literally is obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #37

Josh Gates is a member & had a Discovery Channel show, "Tales from the Explorers Club" last year Taylor Picker Jun 2023 #65

Incorporated 1905, per their website. Igel Jun 2023 #81

... Faux pas Jun 2023 #14

You do realize that the paying passengers aren't US citizens? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #21

I do Faux pas Jun 2023 #76

my thoughts eggzachery onethatcares Jun 2023 #24

... Faux pas Jun 2023 #77

Are there any Americans onboard? Nt XanaDUer2 Jun 2023 #15

No obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #39

Ah XanaDUer2 Jun 2023 #41

The CEO is American treestar Jun 2023 #61

He is on board sarisataka Jun 2023 #67

only too true, and given his treestar Jun 2023 #71

Blaming the government they didn't want interfering in the first place. yardwork Jun 2023 #17

And a government that has no real responsibility to assist.... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #19

...which is probably way smaller than that at this point, if it imploded. yardwork Jun 2023 #20

That's my hope for them as well. Hugin Jun 2023 #25

Yep. n/t Hugin Jun 2023 #22

That's really the risk you take when you do something so niche like this sboatcar Jun 2023 #23

And especially when you have a dipshit CEO who doesn't Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #30

Reward NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #33

Even if the dive had gone without a hitch, Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #42

We will never understand the bragging rights of malaise Jun 2023 #47

Yachts NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #59

From the video I saw though, the toilet is right next to the window sboatcar Jun 2023 #58

Some guy who's been on the Titan said there was no bathroom..."we used bottles." nt allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #62

And Ill have a snowybirdie Jun 2023 #28

We can do both, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #29

Silence for the innocents snowybirdie Jun 2023 #31

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #34

Feel bad for the 19-year-old kid obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #40

He's an adult. we can do it Jun 2023 #64

I'll blame the submersible company and "explorers," but I wouldn't totally discount Silent Type Jun 2023 #32

It's not "turf protection", it's procedure. bluesbassman Jun 2023 #45

Sorry, I've worked around "procedure" often. And sometimes, "procedure" ain't the best/right way. Silent Type Jun 2023 #50

You ever serve in the military? bluesbassman Jun 2023 #55

Military is a great place to practice following blind/flawed procedure. Good luck to your son. Silent Type Jun 2023 #56

So no, sarisataka Jun 2023 #68

Like 93+% of population. But I did work for government. Great job, except for flawed "procedures." Silent Type Jun 2023 #72

I see, so you have no military experience and worked in an office for "the government". bluesbassman Jun 2023 #85

Ah, a good "yes" man. Didn't badmouth CG, my preferred branch of military actually because they Silent Type Jun 2023 #86

If there was enough risk they might have needed recovery equipment- haele Jun 2023 #49

Why the hell didn't the thing have an EPIRB? Ocelot II Jun 2023 #38

You could toss a damned air tag in it and it would be something obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #43

EPIRBs are for surface vessels. sl8 Jun 2023 #46

Some EPIRBs are activated if they get wet. I would assume that the submarine version Ocelot II Jun 2023 #48

The ones I'm familar with are designed to float free of the ship when it sinks. sl8 Jun 2023 #54

If the structure failed the beacon might float to the surface. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #57

. Effete Snob Jun 2023 #66

That's why EPIRBs float. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #79

Then I don't see the point Effete Snob Jun 2023 #82

I heard a past passenger (and current investor) the company.., bluesbassman Jun 2023 #52

It may have worked Effete Snob Jun 2023 #69

That's a good point. bluesbassman Jun 2023 #75

Good point. That's just one of many aspects of this misadventure calimary Jun 2023 #84

You nailed it malaise Jun 2023 #44

Does it require sending people down there ? JI7 Jun 2023 #51

I think it's too deep for divers - it would have to be another submersible. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #53

They are trying to say that more government treestar Jun 2023 #60

Yes, this calls for a market-based solution Effete Snob Jun 2023 #73

Fuck these libertarian assholes. I have zero sympathy and not sorry. we can do it Jun 2023 #63

I think keeping more people from getting killed Here is the priority. ZonkerHarris Jun 2023 #70

Debris field Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #74

Completely unsurprising sarisataka Jun 2023 #80

They were on their way to see a debris field, yes. Effete Snob Jun 2023 #83

agreed. libertarians are the worst Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #78