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Martin68

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Sat Jun 24, 2023, 10:16 AM Jun 2023

The situation with what appears to be a possible coup against Putin by Prigozhin and the Wagner [View all]

Group is complicated and difficult to assess. I've never been much of a conspiracy buff, but it has occurred to me that it would be a brilliant move by Putin to draw Ukrainian troops into a premature and hasty attack on Russian lines that could prove catastrophic if Russian forces were ready for it. So my first contribution to the Global Conspiracy Sphere: What if Putin and Prigozhin conspired to create the appearance of a fake falling out and coup attempt, complete with a few explosions and other contrived events to lend realism to the ploy? All for the purpose of leading Ukrainian troops into a deadly rap? It would also serve to reveal which members of Putin's circle are loyal and which are not.

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Satellite and drones would give an overview of Orc movements NutmegYankee Jun 2023 #1
Not much to see at this point. There is reportedly a Wagner column traveling towards Moscow, Martin68 Jun 2023 #4
I suspect the view is on movements in the occupied zone. NutmegYankee Jun 2023 #10
Prigozhin is no actor. speak easy Jun 2023 #2
This wouldn't be believable as a movie script. Let alone real life. nt Carlitos Brigante Jun 2023 #3
The same could be said for many actual events in history. Who would have predicted Prigozhin Martin68 Jun 2023 #5
It could. But this is just silly. How many people are in on it? What percentage of the Carlitos Brigante Jun 2023 #8
Troops obey orders. They seldom know what their objective is, particularly in the Russian army. Martin68 Jun 2023 #18
What I find unlikely, almost no shot at this point, is to see any "brilliance" from Mr. Carlitos Brigante Jun 2023 #23
My faithful Russian sources say it is game on! GreenWave Jun 2023 #6
If so, the outcome will depend on how Russian forces react. They could let Wagner enter Moscow Martin68 Jun 2023 #7
Very little resistance. GreenWave Jun 2023 #9
Nah n/t Emrys Jun 2023 #11
It would be Putin's FIRST brilliant move in this incompetent war lame54 Jun 2023 #12
Step away from the bong. Or do more. Either one. thebigidea Jun 2023 #13
Actually it was 300 mcgs of primo Clear Light. Martin68 Jun 2023 #22
And sometimes things are just as they seem, a military coup. Bev54 Jun 2023 #14
Obviously that's the most likely scenario. Martin68 Jun 2023 #19
This is not Putin's plan. harumph Jun 2023 #15
Which Oligarchs are backing him? Prigozhin is rich, but not enough to rule. haele Jun 2023 #16
He's a mercenary for hire. Question is WHO hired him? JCMach1 Jun 2023 #17
He's not for hire anymore. He's way beyond that. He wants power. Martin68 Jun 2023 #21
Think Putin just paid him off through Lukoshenko JCMach1 Jun 2023 #24
Guaranteed safety? I doubt that promise will last. Next thing you know Prigozhin will Martin68 Jun 2023 #25
So why is Prigozhin committing suicide? Betting that the Russian military will defect to his side Martin68 Jun 2023 #20
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