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mvymvy

(309 posts)
1. National Popular Vote
Thu Jun 29, 2023, 12:24 PM
Jun 2023

Now we need to guarantee the candidate who wins the most popular votes among all 50 states and DC always wins the presidency.
Every vote in every state would matter and count equally as 1 vote in the national total.
State legislators in states with 65 more electoral votes are needed to enact the National Popular Vote bill.

Arizona, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin were the top three most litigious states in 2022 in regards to elections.The 2 current and 1 former battleground state accounted for over 40% of all the election and voting lawsuits filed. Arizona topped the list, with 35 lawsuits, Pennsylvania 21 and Wisconsin 16. – Democracy Docket

234 Trump Article III judgeship nominees were confirmed by the US Senate

A majority of U.S. Supreme Court justices (5 of the 6 “conservative” justices) were appointed by Presidents who first entered office after not winning the most national popular votes.

SCOTUS 2023 Moore v Harper sets “a version of judicial review that is going to give the federal courts, and especially the Supreme Court itself, the last word in election disputes." - Hasen

We have 519,682 elected officials in this country, and all of them are elected by who gets the most votes. Except for President and VP.

Our unfair presidential election system can lead to politicians and their enablers who appreciate unfairness, which leads to more unfairness, and recently crimes and violence.

The sheer magnitude of the national popular vote numbers in presidential elections, compared to individual (especially battleground) state vote totals, is much more robust against “pure insanity,” deception, manipulation, and recently, crimes and violence.

If as few as 11,000 voters in Arizona (11 electors), 12,000 in Georgia (16), and 22,000 in Wisconsin (10) had not voted for Biden, or partisan officials did not certify the actual counts -- Trump would have won despite Biden's nationwide lead of more than 7 million.
The Electoral College would have tied 269-269.
Congress, with only 1 vote per state, would have decided the election, regardless of the popular vote in any state or throughout the country.

In 2016, Trump won the Presidency because he won Michigan by 11,000 votes, Wisconsin by 23,000 votes, and Pennsylvania by 44,000 votes.
Each of these 78,000 votes was 36 times more important than Clinton's nationwide lead of 2,868,686 votes.

States with 270+ Electoral College votes are agreeing to award them to the winner of the most popular votes from all 50 states and DC, by simply changing their state’s current district or statewide winner-take-all law, using their exclusive and plenary constitutional power

All votes would be valued equally in presidential elections, no matter where voters live.

No more distorting, crude, and divisive red and blue state maps of predictable outcomes, that don’t represent any minority party voters within each state.
No more handful of 'battleground' states (where the two major political parties happen to have similar levels of support) where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in 38+ predictable winner states that have just been 'spectators' and ignored after the conventions.
We can limit the outsized power and influence of a few battleground states in order to better serve our nation.

The constitutional wording does not encourage, discourage, require, or prohibit the use of any particular method for awarding a state's electoral votes.

There is nothing in the Constitution that prevents states from making the decision now that winning the national popular vote is required to win the Electoral College and the presidency.

It is perfectly within a state’s authority to decide that national popularity is the overriding substantive criterion by which a president should be chosen.

Because of current state-by-state statewide winner-take-all laws, not mentioned, much less endorsed, in the Constitution. . .

Presidential elections, campaigns, and governance are distorted by the concentration of attention on just a few states.

Before anti-democracy Republicans, and new voter suppression and election subversion laws, based on the Big Lie/Big Grift, the system with 2020 election laws meant that the winning 2024 presidential candidate could need a national popular vote win of 5 percentage points or more in order to squeak out an Electoral College victory.

Minority and youth voting have dropped significantly. Since 2008, Black voting in states dominated by Democrats has increased by 1.8 points; in Republican-dominated states it has dropped by four points. In Georgia, Black participation rates dropped from 47.8% to 43.2% between 2018 and 2022. Hispanic participation dropped from 27.6% to 25.1%, and the youth vote dropped from 33% to 26%. - Elias

The new presidential electoral map is more favorable to Republicans by a net six points.

NationalPopularVote.com

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National Popular Vote mvymvy Jun 2023 #1
To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, "you go to the election with the Constitution you have" brooklynite Jun 2023 #2
Simply changing state laws mvymvy Jun 2023 #3
And as I said yesterday, you're not likely to get that either brooklynite Jun 2023 #4
Elections matter mvymvy Jun 2023 #5
I'll spot you Michigan and Maine... brooklynite Jun 2023 #6
State legislators and Governors Elections matter! mvymvy Jun 2023 #7
It could pass, but it could easily be struck down by the SC Polybius Jun 2023 #12
It has NOTHING TO DO with the Interstate Commerce Act mvymvy Jun 2023 #13
Not saying it does Polybius Jun 2023 #19
It violates the Constitution's prohibition on states having compacts or agreements with each other. former9thward Jun 2023 #20
Does not violate the Compact Clause either mvymvy Jun 2023 #24
Well here is the thing unless all states do it. I don't want to. I refuse to lose any election that Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #16
2024 Republican could win with more than 5% less popular votes than Democrat mvymvy Jun 2023 #25
Wisconsin just won a very important Supreme Court election...and they are likely to lose Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #15
When you find a way to flip... brooklynite Jun 2023 #23
The only states interested in doing this are Blue states Polybius Jun 2023 #11
State legislators in states with 65 more electoral votes are needed mvymvy Jun 2023 #26
Electoral College NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #8
To abolish the Electoral College would need a constitutional amendment mvymvy Jun 2023 #9
Republican Tactic NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #10
The "reasoning" for electoral college was to appease slave holding states groundloop Jun 2023 #17
I don't agree with your OP...I think we are going to do very well. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #14
Agreed yankee87 Jun 2023 #18
Maybe, maybe not. Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #21
Trump is in a one point lead in PA. former9thward Jun 2023 #22
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