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In reply to the discussion: Just a reminder- today is yet another consequence of not getting out the vote in 2016 for Hillary [View all]Autumn
(48,884 posts)4. Just a reminder
Hillary got almost 3 million more votes than the orange ass did. The problem wasn't getting out the vote. It was a third party candidate in 3 states that was until 2016, called the blue wall. You could fit the voters from those three states in stadium that cost her the election.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/hillary-clinton-margin-loss-votes
While nearly 138 million Americans voted in the presidential election, the stunning electoral victory of Donald Trump came down to upsets in just a handful of states that Hillary Clinton was expected to win. It has been cold comfort for Democrats that Clinton won the popular voteat the last count, she was up by about 2.5 million votes, and climbing, as ballots continue to be counted. Even more distressing is the tiny margin by which Clinton lost Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvaniathree states that were supposed to be her firewall in the Rust Belt, but that ultimately tipped the electoral college map decisively in Trumps favor.
Trumps margin of victory in those three states? Just 79,316 votes.
This latest number comes from Decision Desks final tally of Pennsylvanias votes, where Trump won 2,961,875 votes to Clintons 2,915,440, a difference of 46,435 votes. Add that to the official results out of Wisconsin, where Clinton lost by 22,177 votes, and Michigan, which she lost by 10,704 votes, and there you have it: 0.057 percent of total voters cost Clinton the presidency.
But it is worth considering just how few voters ultimately set the country on its current, arguably terrifying course. The 79,316 people who voted for Trump in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvaniaall states that Democrats carried since 1992is less than the entire student body of Penn State (97,494 students), or only slightly more than the number of people who attended Desert Trip, the Baby Boomer-friendly music festival colloquially known as Oldchella. If you put all these voters in the Rose Bowl, there would be slightly over 13,000 seats left over. There are more people living in Nampa, Idaho, a city you have never heard of.
Trumps margin of victory in those three states? Just 79,316 votes.
This latest number comes from Decision Desks final tally of Pennsylvanias votes, where Trump won 2,961,875 votes to Clintons 2,915,440, a difference of 46,435 votes. Add that to the official results out of Wisconsin, where Clinton lost by 22,177 votes, and Michigan, which she lost by 10,704 votes, and there you have it: 0.057 percent of total voters cost Clinton the presidency.
But it is worth considering just how few voters ultimately set the country on its current, arguably terrifying course. The 79,316 people who voted for Trump in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvaniaall states that Democrats carried since 1992is less than the entire student body of Penn State (97,494 students), or only slightly more than the number of people who attended Desert Trip, the Baby Boomer-friendly music festival colloquially known as Oldchella. If you put all these voters in the Rose Bowl, there would be slightly over 13,000 seats left over. There are more people living in Nampa, Idaho, a city you have never heard of.
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Just a reminder- today is yet another consequence of not getting out the vote in 2016 for Hillary [View all]
dsp3000
Jun 2023
OP
Corporate shill liberal elite corrupt status quo lesser of two evils Wall St. Wall St. Wall St.
betsuni
Jun 2023
#17
Trump won those three states by 79,316 votes. He would not have even come close with winning
Autumn
Jun 2023
#6
The evidence from the time made it clear that Gary Johnson took more vote from HRC than from Trump.
StevieM
Jun 2023
#15
That is untrue...that is a bedtime story that those mostly on the left like Stein and some who
Demsrule86
Jul 2023
#54
The Libertarian Party actually has some real differences in ideology from Republicans.
W_HAMILTON
Jun 2023
#21
It wouldn't have mattered because it would still be 5-4. If only everyone on the left voted...
W_HAMILTON
Jun 2023
#23
Hard to forget. Ultimately, too many Democrats protest voting gave us trump,
Silent Type
Jun 2023
#9
I think it's more about liberal justices not retiring when Obama was in the White House.
mudstump
Jun 2023
#14
A Justice died while Obama was in the White House and he wasn't allowed to replace him.
yardwork
Jul 2023
#53
No it wasn't. I don't say Comey didn't have an effect but those on the left who voted for Stein
Demsrule86
Jul 2023
#56
She won by 3 million votes & her people worked like all get out. Jill Stein's bosses ...
Hekate
Jul 2023
#71
Not hard at all. I just wanted you to go on record with it, to eliminate any plausible deniability.
Beastly Boy
Jun 2023
#48
There were many right here that were so mad that bernie did not get the nomination they didn't vote
PortTack
Jun 2023
#37
I don't believe for a minute that Bernie would've beat Trump in either election.
Jedi Guy
Jun 2023
#45