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TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
30. True
Tue Jul 4, 2023, 01:30 PM
Jul 2023

When people use any type of "righteousness" to overpower and abuse others, it's wrong. Pure and simple.

What is sad to me is that I know many Christians who are appalled at what is being done in the name of God.

We should know better by now...


The Crusades.
The Inquisition.
Henry and the Church of England.
Salem Witch Trials.

Church and State are only mixed to empower the State in it's corruption, to prevent the power of the Church from standing against it.
Or to allow the Church to take power and rule. It's never good to mix them up.

Religion should simply be about people figuring out how to live a better life and come together to support each other through the trials of living on Earth. It should NOT be about controlling anyone except your own self and teaching your kids to be decent to one another.

Religion isn't the only place we can learn morality but it was where a lot of our ideas came from and just because things are crazy right now:

Murder is still wrong.
Lying and stealing aren't good things.
Adultery complicates relationships and is another form of dishonesty.
Children obeying their parents is usually a good thing.

So government can and does legislate:

To prevent people from randomly killing others.
To make stealing and lying have consequences.
To allow people to divorce when things don't work out.
To protect and educate children to enable them to learn to be civil in our society.

Because throughout the long history of the World, these are still things most moral people believe make a society function better.

SO THE PEOPLE who actually STAND UP for those values and live their religion on their own time, SHOULD NOT be attacked because there are people who use the name of God to do awful things.

WE SHOULD JUDGE PEOPLE BY THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER, not the Church they attend or don't.


WE EITHER STAND FOR DEMOCRACY OR TYRANNY.


Freedom OF Religion and FROM Religion is a tough one to pull off, but I hope at least here on DU, some people can manage it most of the time.


I am not your enemy.

Please don't treat me like one.


Thanks.




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Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Jun 2023 #1
You nailed it. Spread it. blm Jul 2023 #2
I'm religious, and I couldn't agree more. summer_in_TX Jul 2023 #3
Exactly. My religion is a guide to *my* life. Not anyone else's. unblock Jul 2023 #4
You are impressive, TY! arthritisR_US Jul 2023 #7
force others to life by their religious rules keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #26
You will get no argument from me. I think you are spot on. LoisB Jul 2023 #5
Basically moniss Jul 2023 #6
Thank you for being so considerate of other people's feelings! But NO apology is necessary. calimary Jul 2023 #8
I Feel The Same ProfessorGAC Jul 2023 #19
Well. I count Kindergarten and Pre-Kindergarten as well as 1st-12th grades. calimary Jul 2023 #20
Our School Didn't Do Pre-K or K ProfessorGAC Jul 2023 #22
My biggest longterm takeaway from Catholic school was/is calimary Jul 2023 #23
The court's derision (sic) is establishment of religion. usonian Jul 2023 #9
I completely agree. dchill Jul 2023 #11
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2023 #10
Well Stated Luck Counts Jul 2023 #12
Welcome to DU, Luck Counts! calimary Jul 2023 #24
Did Jesus rail against homosexuality and abortion? Martin Eden Jul 2023 #13
NOPE. TigressDem Jul 2023 #15
As they drive more people away from their religion Martin Eden Jul 2023 #17
True TigressDem Jul 2023 #30
Very Well Said Martin Eden Jul 2023 #32
Thank you for the clarification. TigressDem Jul 2023 #37
Alas, even here at DU the broad brush is used all too often Martin Eden Jul 2023 #42
LOL You really think that he was against harming children ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #21
Yes. Because I know the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament. TigressDem Jul 2023 #29
Honestly, separation of church and state protects both. TigressDem Jul 2023 #14
'protects both' keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #28
Right. TigressDem Jul 2023 #31
When the 'right' religion takes over. keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #33
I am not promoting that ANY religion should "take over" - just to clarify. TigressDem Jul 2023 #38
Agree. keithbvadu2 Jul 2023 #39
Not Offended at All NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #16
AGREE! bluestarone Jul 2023 #18
I fixed your post for you Mosby Jul 2023 #25
Luck??? Are you serious? edisdead Jul 2023 #27
This Christian agrees with every word of your post. 11 Bravo Jul 2023 #34
People who are not religious at all may discriminate treestar Jul 2023 #35
Religion was given the boot in a lot of governments over time. Xolodno Jul 2023 #36
Good post. I would disagree about the "stroke of luck" comment... Caliman73 Jul 2023 #40
I agree with your points. Mine was specifically about Trump. bluesbassman Jul 2023 #41
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