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113. Good points you raise! Some are saying here in the Midwest (I'm in STLMO) that the tornadoes

Sat Jul 8, 2023, 11:31 AM

Jul 2023

(a seemingly larger number of tornados than usual) due to climate change. Weather is so complicated, so involved w/ millions of factors, that I think anyone knowing everything about weather and the changes that are occurring are kind of out there.

Some (an increasing number) do/are making sense in what they say, with regard to weather changes. I'll never downplay or downgrade what they say, since it does seem to be more negative weather-related events happening, and it's not just due to our 24x7 electronic media coverage. I also do think that some things, are logical and evident, such as increased moisture (along w/ its associated increase in energy) in the atmosphere, leads to increased tornadic activity, etc.

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People leaving Florida. [View all] MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 OP

unfortunately its what the fascists want. hitler started by trying to get jews to lv germany... msongs Jul 2023 #1

I don't give a shit what the fascists want. Initech Jul 2023 #33

Do you have a link to the letter, please? Ocelot II Jul 2023 #2

I never got the software MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #5

I tried. The St. Pete Times is apparently now the Tampa Bay Times Ocelot II Jul 2023 #10

The Times is considered MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #17

Software? Celerity Jul 2023 #23

Thanks. I will check it out MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #41

I saw another poster found the link as well. Celerity Jul 2023 #43

I feel for the farmer, but it's too dangerous for migrants to stay. Scrivener7 Jul 2023 #3

No. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #6

I wonder who the farmer voted for. Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #74

Yes - bet you dollars to donuts they voted Republican 75-80% hatrack Jul 2023 #80

Then tough shit for him. hadEnuf Jul 2023 #87

Yes. I don't know if he did, but odds are, Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #88

They can't stay. Their very lives are in danger. onecaliberal Jul 2023 #4

Currently the rethugs are MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #11

It's going to get bad. onecaliberal Jul 2023 #16

"A house divided against itself, cannot stand." usonian Jul 2023 #7

Matthew 12:25 and Abraham Lincoln. LoisB Jul 2023 #15

Eventually Florida will crash and burn vercetti2021 Jul 2023 #8

I disagree that Floridians wanted this. Lochloosa Jul 2023 #12

Lots of rethugs MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #19

They are moving here for the same reason they always have. Phoenix61 Jul 2023 #31

Yes... PCIntern Jul 2023 #77

"... his love of supply side economics"? Is he stupid? Grins Jul 2023 #95

I still have that Atlantic PCIntern Jul 2023 #96

I had to laugh KentuckyWoman Jul 2023 #115

I have family there mountain grammy Jul 2023 #36

Thank you Pacifist Patriot Jul 2023 #86

Yep. It's called "brain drain." Smart people, esp. women, will leave to find jobs in better places CTyankee Jul 2023 #13

You reap what you vote. Beachnutt Jul 2023 #26

👍 Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #35

This Texan does NOT WANT ABBOTT MagickMuffin Jul 2023 #54

Got that right DFW Jul 2023 #76

Crash and burn...and fall into the swamp markodochartaigh Jul 2023 #63

Born and raised here. I have always loved Florida. Lochloosa Jul 2023 #9

Politics aside, it's always surprised me that people were able to live there at all Ocelot II Jul 2023 #14

I moved to NC from CA barbtries Jul 2023 #29

I likewise cannot abide heat. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2023 #38

This!☝️ onetexan Jul 2023 #67

heat notwithstanding NJCher Jul 2023 #65

Christie was corrupt and self-serving Random Boomer Jul 2023 #92

Suffering with Parsons here UpInArms Jul 2023 #106

All people will eventually leave Florida. roamer65 Jul 2023 #18

Indeed. They will have to. Duppers Jul 2023 #58

uhhh... Then the gators will have to leave too edisdead Jul 2023 #70

You're right. Duppers Jul 2023 #73

as a property owner NJCher Jul 2023 #66

Would be a smart move if she does. roamer65 Jul 2023 #72

I'm in Broward County. Lived here all my life. I love it here In It to Win It Jul 2023 #20

I've been here 35 years and love it also. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #22

Sadly, it will probably be underwater sooner PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2023 #40

You have some help coming Tree Lady Jul 2023 #69

Link: ''Goodbye, Florida Here's why I'm leaving'' Donkees Jul 2023 #21

Thanks so much for that, Donkees! MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #24

Thanks! Celerity Jul 2023 #25

Thanks for the link Chi67 Jul 2023 #27

+1 dalton99a Jul 2023 #28

Thanks! Ocelot II Jul 2023 #34

Wow! That is an impressive letter. calimary Jul 2023 #61

Took a double-take at your sig line quote echoing that abominable 303Creative case... JudyM Jul 2023 #90

And MAGAts are just streaming in from Red northern shitholes, so it's not going to improve Celerity Jul 2023 #30

goood, maybe those places will turn blue and we can quarantine all the reddies in FL msongs Jul 2023 #37

We will gladly off load them. roamer65 Jul 2023 #59

some friends of ours NJCher Jul 2023 #68

Mine are 350 a year Cheezoholic Jul 2023 #112

I felt your post. Physically. KentuckyWoman Jul 2023 #117

Lived in Florida for years. Loved it. Hope it recovers. Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #32

I like that Americans are speaking with their feet, however.. The Jungle 1 Jul 2023 #39

It all began with jeb screwing Gore. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #44

+1 2naSalit Jul 2023 #55

I agree. I live in a red NE FL county, but have several friends who lean left. Fla Dem Jul 2023 #81

Well Chi67 Jul 2023 #94

When companies can't get qualified people... Xolodno Jul 2023 #42

If they're all leaving tavernier Jul 2023 #45

Florida is the biggest MAGAt magnet in the country by far. Mariana Jul 2023 #47

Well, then, I guess all my friends and family will have to remain tavernier Jul 2023 #49

Herschel Walker's oldest son Christain moved there last year from California CatWoman Jul 2023 #46

DeSatan is just a really bad stink passing through Warpy Jul 2023 #48

It's been The Tampa Bay Times for years mcar Jul 2023 #50

while I hate seeing the fascists "win" Skittles Jul 2023 #51

My Nephew lives in St Pete with his Cha Jul 2023 #52

Because Gainesville is a fantastic town. Ligyron Jul 2023 #79

Gainesville is great. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2023 #84

Ah Yes.. the Florida natural Springs.. I love Cha Jul 2023 #102

They are beautiful. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2023 #103

Natural Springs are the Best.. I've Cha Jul 2023 #107

Mahallo for that about Gainesville, Fla! Cha Jul 2023 #101

Within 10 years I think we will see... S/V Loner Jul 2023 #53

I agree Kaleva Jul 2023 #56

We really don't want southern MAGAts up here. roamer65 Jul 2023 #57

The person that wrote the editorial/letter is not MAGA. Demsrule86 Jul 2023 #60

I know that. roamer65 Jul 2023 #62

I'm glad none of the MAGAts will be coming to NY. Our taxes are way to high fo them and Raftergirl Jul 2023 #98

Crazy days. roamer65 Jul 2023 #100

I think those that come to the Northeast will... S/V Loner Jul 2023 #105

Very very possible, in what you say here. It'll be interesting to see how southern states SWBTATTReg Jul 2023 #85

I am in CT and... S/V Loner Jul 2023 #104

Good points you raise! Some are saying here in the Midwest (I'm in STLMO) that the tornadoes SWBTATTReg Jul 2023 #113

King George III is oppressive! We MUST flee the colonies! CaptainTruth Jul 2023 #64

The Walking Dead: Floriduh Kennah Jul 2023 #71

Ta-Ta, Talahassee Blue Owl Jul 2023 #75

Insurance is another issue causing people to leave 617Blue Jul 2023 #78

Insurance companies pay attention to reality Random Boomer Jul 2023 #93

So true GrapesOfWrath Jul 2023 #97

Meanwhile if you mention climate change you're denounced... 617Blue Jul 2023 #99

I'm leaving, too! Chalco Jul 2023 #82

Don't do anything rash SpankMe Jul 2023 #83

I will agree with you. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #109

The population of Florida has changed a lot since then. Mariana Jul 2023 #116

Nailed it. republianmushroom Jul 2023 #89

Thanks for that. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #110

Property insurance rate are not ridiculous Random Boomer Jul 2023 #91

I will disagree. MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #111

abbot's working on it. Jakes Progress Jul 2023 #108

Intended consequences? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2023 #114