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79. One election where the guy lost the popular vote...and

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Sat Jul 8, 2023, 04:07 PM

Jul 2023

one Supreme Court Justice that wouldn't retire when a democrat was in the White House.

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The consequences of ONE election. [View all] kpete Jul 2023 OP

I blame our so-called allies who sabotaged her campaign, or who were no-shows, or slow-shows. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #1

+1 betsuni Jul 2023 #4

Since you indicated support for the comment, what are "slow-shows"? It seems that those would be... xocetaceans Jul 2023 #88

Post #57 might provide an answer to your question. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #90

Partisan Democrats who strongly identify as such vote Democratic: the base. betsuni Jul 2023 #102

Thanks for the citation of the book and the explanation. xocetaceans Jul 2023 #113

I love the book, cite it often, full of useful data. Wish they'd done a study about 2020 too. betsuni Jul 2023 #118

+1 2naSalit Jul 2023 #5

So long as there are headline readers there will be headline writers. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #7

Hey, I'm an unpaid bumper sticker writer! 90-percent Jul 2023 #10

There's good money to be made in that career. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #78

I will never get over radical noodle Jul 2023 #19

Those people were never liberals or Democrats. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2023 #42

They were certainly not loyal Democrats and not loyal to the Party. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #135

That was when we turned into bizarro world SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #43

if u were around for the gore v bush and the ronald raygun AllaN01Bear Jul 2023 #53

Oh MAN, those were miserable and deeply disturbing days. calimary Jul 2023 #76

I'm so old... radical noodle Jul 2023 #99

I'm probably as old as you are calguy Jul 2023 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author calguy Jul 2023 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author OverBurn Jul 2023 #28

so very true. stopdiggin Jul 2023 #45

Led by the Bigoted right wing Fraud Tulsi Gabbard JI7 Jul 2023 #108

Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #110

Someone please tell that to Maine Abu El Banat Jul 2023 #2

Don't forget the Bernie Bros. calguy Jul 2023 #36

I met one the other day wryter2000 Jul 2023 #40

Sanders supporters like myself who are liberals, not just "change" voters, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2023 #46

I don't blame all the Bernie Bros calguy Jul 2023 #49

True. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #57

I was a Clinton delegate to the 2016 convention LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #59

That's fantastic! You're fortunate to have been there (despite the nastiness and unpleasantness.)👍 Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #61

This was my first and probably only Democratic National Convention LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #67

The hatred in that video is disturbing. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #71

And while I think Bernie Sanders is great... MerryHolidays Jul 2023 #101

Of course they did. I wonder if anyone inside their respective campaigns knew. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #131

They knew in April and May: "But why didn't you go to your supporters? Why didn't you take betsuni Jul 2023 #132

That's disappointing, isn't it? Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #133

Yes. betsuni Jul 2023 #134

Bravo Me. Jul 2023 #80

Couldn't have said it better myself. calguy Jul 2023 #86

+1 betsuni Jul 2023 #95

Oh, FFS, get over it. Quit fixating. krkaufman Jul 2023 #106

"Blamecasting" AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 #137

Uh huh inthewind21 Jul 2023 #142

The statement about Clinton is not true. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #63

I'd like to know, too. That the Democratic Party takes for granted, doesn't listen to, ignores betsuni Jul 2023 #87

You just did it yourself. krkaufman Jul 2023 #107

What was the problem with the party platform, the most progressive in history, as was the 2020 betsuni Jul 2023 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2023 #127

"Anointed" LOL. betsuni Jul 2023 #123

No inthewind21 Jul 2023 #144

Sanders was NEVER going to president Skittles Jul 2023 #82

+1 ShazzieB Jul 2023 #85

True. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #89

True. I remember that. I was ardently for Hillary. calimary Jul 2023 #91

I cannot say what I think of him Skittles Jul 2023 #103

I can guess. I bet I feel the exact same way. calimary Jul 2023 #105

I LOVE what Roy Delfino says about him. betsuni Jul 2023 #138

Sanders voters voted for Clinton than Clinton voters voted for Obama. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2023 #139

LOL inthewind21 Jul 2023 #145

... lapucelle Jul 2023 #162

Hillary held her first campaign event a few weeks after the convention, Sanders not until September betsuni Jul 2023 #93

Alternate source? krkaufman Jul 2023 #111

Obama: "At the end of our contest, I saw the grace and the energy with which she threw herself betsuni Jul 2023 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Jul 2023 #122

... lapucelle Jul 2023 #164

That is what I saw also LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #129

June 27 was Hillary's first rally with Obama. betsuni Jul 2023 #130

Excuse me AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 #136

Excuse me right back at you calguy Jul 2023 #140

She lost because of the Electoral College AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 #149

We play by the rules that are established calguy Jul 2023 #151

'And no it hasn't always been that way either. Are you aware why the EC even exists?" inthewind21 Jul 2023 #153

I know what I wrote, and I know there's nothing I can say... calguy Jul 2023 #163

yes Skittles Jul 2023 #152

SO inthewind21 Jul 2023 #146

Why the gaslighting? AntivaxHunters Jul 2023 #150

lol inthewind21 Jul 2023 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Jul 2023 #155

She doesn't give a self righteous shit. Cha Jul 2023 #74

and what if SCOTUS had awarded the POTUS to Gore? samnsara Jul 2023 #3

Or if SCOTUS had simply NOT declared Bush President? raging moderate Jul 2023 #6

that SC Bush v. Gore ruling 90-percent Jul 2023 #12

Thanks to Kavanaugh, Roger Stone and the other "officials". flying_wahini Jul 2023 #64

+1 absolutely bronxiteforever Jul 2023 #13

This. yardwork Jul 2023 #14

Perhaps, but if Ralph Nader hadn't required an ego boost.... paleotn Jul 2023 #18

The same could be said of Jill Stein in 2016, but see below. yardwork Jul 2023 #21

End of the day, yes. That's where the fault belongs. paleotn Jul 2023 #26

Yes, and African American voters don't sit out elections when they don't get everything they need. yardwork Jul 2023 #29

I beg to differ SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #35

yes. to claim that this or that 'group' stopdiggin Jul 2023 #50

Outliers Keepthesoulalive Jul 2023 #51

While that may apply to some demographics SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #54

As a whole, the vast majority of Black voters vote Democratic. yardwork Jul 2023 #56

Wil all due respect inthewind21 Jul 2023 #147

Sorry, I can only go by my experiences SouthernDem4ever Jul 2023 #148

This. SalamanderSleeps Jul 2023 #30

Or if there hadn't been cheating and stealing. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2023 #47

Karl Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #68

And Nader happily took their dirty money. SunSeeker Jul 2023 #75

The USSC DENVERPOPS Jul 2023 #115

Yes... that. But I'd also include Ford pardoning Nixon. That's when the toxic GOP started. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #39

THIS!!☝️ onetexan Jul 2023 #8

ya know the funny thing about this? mopinko Jul 2023 #9

I don't blame young people. I blame white people. yardwork Jul 2023 #16

not blaming them. mopinko Jul 2023 #32

I know you walk the walk! You always work hard to GOTV. yardwork Jul 2023 #33

not so much lately. mopinko Jul 2023 #34

Amen to that Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #22

Really? inthewind21 Jul 2023 #156

How we got here maxrandb Jul 2023 #11

Righteous rant! +1000 yardwork Jul 2023 #17

+1. I know! "Like HE said! .." stopdiggin Jul 2023 #52

And all that hate radio would never have been around RocRizzo55 Jul 2023 #25

I keep inthewind21 Jul 2023 #158

It was a strategy RocRizzo55 Jul 2023 #168

great rant.. so true! mountain grammy Jul 2023 #55

It's not just 1 election that caused this Farmer-Rick Jul 2023 #15

Exactly nt RocRizzo55 Jul 2023 #24

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, VOTE. Joinfortmill Jul 2023 #20

Well said. At the very least, just show the F up. paleotn Jul 2023 #27

It goes back further than that RocRizzo55 Jul 2023 #23

plus.... newdayneeded Jul 2023 #31

Have to blame DownriverDem Jul 2023 #37

Plus wryter2000 Jul 2023 #38

It was more than one election. It was several cycles that got us where we are...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2023 #41

This would be Hillary's 2nd term. Things would have been much different. Much better. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #77

I disagree inthewind21 Jul 2023 #160

The analogy of the castle is a good one. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #167

The sad part is that we all have been repeatedly warned of the consequences back in 2015. Beastly Boy Jul 2023 #44

Consequences, yes, but that ONE election wasn't the cause. FoxNewsSucks Jul 2023 #48

And infighting. krkaufman Jul 2023 #112

How is this thread an example of infighting. How is the OP incorrect? betsuni Jul 2023 #119

The consequences of unethical anti-democratic maneuvers by Mitch McConnell and his Martin68 Jul 2023 #58

And millions don't die of covid, because we stopped it in China. SunSeeker Jul 2023 #60

covid never would have been "stopped in China" Takket Jul 2023 #65

Obama managed to stop Ebola in Africa. SunSeeker Jul 2023 #69

Covid was vastly more contagous than Ebola dsc Jul 2023 #94

We would not have lost a million people. SunSeeker Jul 2023 #96

Yep republianmushroom Jul 2023 #62

And Bush v Gore Sancho Jul 2023 #66

Trump was a nuclear bomb to American society. Oneironaut Jul 2023 #70

The problems always start at the top Sympthsical Jul 2023 #72

We've been fighting in a post- 2016 national emergency ever since. 2016 continues, year 7. Hortensis Jul 2023 #73

One election where the guy lost the popular vote...and mudstump Jul 2023 #79

There was a 4-4 split in the Supreme Court in 2016 with a seat open. lapucelle Jul 2023 #81

McConnell would have blocked her replacement, too. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #83

Maybe. krkaufman Jul 2023 #109

No inthewind21 Jul 2023 #161

Yup, the religious right got their hands on the grand prize. Initech Jul 2023 #84

This was NOT the consequences of one election GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #92

It is a discussion board so people will discuss. emulatorloo Jul 2023 #97

Oh, totally feel free to rehash this subject GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #98

'TRASH THREAD' is your friend. emulatorloo Jul 2023 #100

Then they would have to accept that it is the candidate who loses elections, not the voter. Autumn Jul 2023 #157

So, we're going to just keep going on Bettie Jul 2023 #104

This exactly GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #116

Because Trump could win in 2024, both-sides-same-who-cares. betsuni Jul 2023 #120

Apparently people need to be reminded of the TRUTH. So many lies right here in this thread. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2023 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Jul 2023 #121

2000. The SC decision to stop the Florida recount. JanMichael Jul 2023 #128

Has it been two weeks since the last OP exactly like this one already? Time flies. nt Rob H. Jul 2023 #141

To be fair Sympthsical Jul 2023 #143

I know right inthewind21 Jul 2023 #165

Democrats don't want what happened in 2016 to happen again. Things like this: betsuni Jul 2023 #166

I want to move to THAT timeline budkin Jul 2023 #159