General Discussion

Silent3

(15,909 posts)

36. Putin has, in general, been trying to undermine American society. But I doubt...

Thu Jul 13, 2023, 01:04 AM

Jul 2023

...he planned 1/6, at least not as some long-term goal. We should now realize that while Putin is smarter than Trump (not a high hurdle), we shouldn't be giving him credit any longer for being a master 10-dimensional-chess strategist.

If Putin had his way, Trump would have beaten Biden outright in 2020, no need for a coup.

While I wouldn't put it past Putin to encourage the 1/6 attack, Trump and the slime around him were more than capable of coming up with that themselves, and 1/6 wasn't the goal, it was the last-ditch effort when everything else his cabal of freaks and grifters tried failed.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

59 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Has everyone over-looked the possibility of a counter-intelligence operation? [View all] kentuck Jul 2023 OP

the ego angle has always been a silly interpretation Blues Heron Jul 2023 #1

Absolutely, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #2

Short note: DOJ has dumped tRUMP out in the cold vis a vie E Jean Carroll. TigressDem Jul 2023 #14

Garland dumped Trump now, gab13by13 Jul 2023 #23

True. TigressDem Jul 2023 #30

But Russia collusion was a hoax! Frasier Balzov Jul 2023 #3

And Mueller was prohibited from investigating anything financial? kentuck Jul 2023 #5

Mueller indicted; gab13by13 Jul 2023 #8

I read Art of the Deal when I was thirteen-ish Showbizkid Jul 2023 #4

But why did it get "out of control"? kentuck Jul 2023 #6

See post #8 gab13by13 Jul 2023 #9

I mean, Perot got 20 percent in 92 Showbizkid Jul 2023 #16

I don't either stopdiggin Jul 2023 #25

My big fear is that if Trump was planned, we're truly screwed Showbizkid Jul 2023 #29

don't buy it stopdiggin Jul 2023 #33

Agree Showbizkid Jul 2023 #49

It wasn't a publicity stunt ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #39

He toyed with running for 25 years in really stupid ways Showbizkid Jul 2023 #42

he also played at being a TV/media personality and star stopdiggin Jul 2023 #53

I don't believe that he thought he was going to win in 2016. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #59

If it wasn't Russia, I'd definitely look to Saudi Arabia. Initech Jul 2023 #7

Perhaps they need an Inspector General (IG) to look into it? kentuck Jul 2023 #12

China's been all over mar a lago as well. Demanchor Jul 2023 #34

Putin has basically owned tRUMP since 2016. TigressDem Jul 2023 #10

I wonder if he ever responded to all of Kim Jung Un's love letters? kentuck Jul 2023 #18

Would he? Showbizkid Jul 2023 #20

It would be like the Ivanka mansion in Kazhakistan... kentuck Jul 2023 #22

Dunno. TigressDem Jul 2023 #31

Not at all! usonian Jul 2023 #11

"What did MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #13

I did not know that Maria Butina was there? kentuck Jul 2023 #21

Occam's razor suggests that Trump's ignorance and stupidity is... TreasonousBastard Jul 2023 #15

I think the better question is why was he famous in the first place? Showbizkid Jul 2023 #19

I remember Trump from many years ago. My parents even bought... TreasonousBastard Jul 2023 #24

+1. you can ferret under the bed, and all the closets too stopdiggin Jul 2023 #28

The former pee-resident of the United States is a traitor. Kid Berwyn Jul 2023 #17

Where is the link to your statement they feared Trump? former9thward Jul 2023 #26

Pompeo in 2017 Kid Berwyn Jul 2023 #45

I agree with you MyMission Jul 2023 #27

I think the documents case has to look at who picked out the documents Warpy Jul 2023 #32

Possibility? It's a certainty relayerbob Jul 2023 #35

Putin has, in general, been trying to undermine American society. But I doubt... Silent3 Jul 2023 #36

Possible I guess. trump has been, IMO, a Russian asset... brush Jul 2023 #37

Remember that shortly after the transfer to Biden moniss Jul 2023 #38

I am still convinced that it was all ANTIFA. ;) Chainfire Jul 2023 #40

We don't hear much about them any more. Or the NRA. nt leftyladyfrommo Jul 2023 #44

What do you mean by "counter-intelligence" or "counter-espionage"? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #41

What would be the correct term? kentuck Jul 2023 #46

Well, it depends on what you mean muriel_volestrangler Jul 2023 #48

Yes, as in espionage by another country. kentuck Jul 2023 #51

K...and...R spanone Jul 2023 #43

Think it's undeniable that foreign players were involved in that administration. For me, it was allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #47

I think you are wildly overstating Putin's powers/abilities Showbizkid Jul 2023 #50

Not just any "American"... kentuck Jul 2023 #52

We don't know what Putin has on tfg. It may be worse than Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. It may be a allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #56

I think this is where we differ Showbizkid Jul 2023 #57

I wouldn't doubt that DOJ/CIA are secretly investigating that very threat Mr. Ected Jul 2023 #54

I think you are probably correct. kentuck Jul 2023 #55

Always ask: WHO BENEFITS? Irish_Dem Jul 2023 #58