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Celerity

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27. We shall see. Climate change was factored in, but perhaps not enough.
Thu Jul 13, 2023, 06:49 AM
Jul 2023

An aside: I almost always cringe when I see people (this is absolutely not, I repeat NOT directed at you) talk (often in quite strident tones) about how most EVERYWHERE needs to lower their birthrates, and they almost always are speaking about North America and Europe as a prime area of discussion.

Birthrates in those two areas are already low, many below replacement level. The places that DO have far too high birthrates are rarely, if ever mentioned by that crowd when they start to thunder on about too much breeding going on.

I have brought it up to more than a few people and they have, on more than a few occasions, went bonkers with self-righteous indignation and denialism in regards to (of course, look at the chart of where the high birthrates are) the racial aspects of their (for clarity, these types are, for the vast majority, white people) ofttimes quite ferocious 'thou shall not breed' posturings and diktats.

As a PoC myself (mixed race black female) I often wonder the motivations of people who constantly speak about the need to dramatically lower birthrates but then focus (and incorrectly so, as our birthrates are already low) mostly on advanced, core first world nations.

There is not a chance that the vast majority of these types were/are unaware of where the birthrates are actually too high. I think they are likely fearful of being labelled a racist (which I find to be a problematic fear, as this is science and we all should deal with the actual numbers) OR (hopefully a small minority) they actually are racists. That second one is also quite strange, as most white supremacist types advocate for whites to breed it up, make a tonne of white babies.

Either way, I do not care for the wilful disingenuousness of the ones who do actually know the real stats (plus I obviously despise the actual racists in the mix, which I think and also hope are actually quite small in number in terms of the people I have have engaged with on the 'too high birthrate' topic). I find it damaging overall to dealing with what will likely be a real problem, a massive problem, very soon, as climate change really starts to drive migration out of certain areas.

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This isn't particularly good for environmental issues. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #1
Look at you - tippy-tapping your electrons all over the place EYESORE 9001 Jul 2023 #3
😁 PCIntern Jul 2023 #7
lol dino salads really GenXer47 Jul 2023 #8
Oil actually formed from marine life. honest.abe Jul 2023 #28
It can't be good for the population either. Initech Jul 2023 #26
They sent a lot of emails bucolic_frolic Jul 2023 #2
More Nigerian princes willing to transfer their vast sums of money to the bank accounts of Americans dalton99a Jul 2023 #4
... tavernier Jul 2023 #5
Interesting but the landmass is too small for that to work ecstatic Jul 2023 #6
India is much much smaller than USA and has 1.4 billion BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2023 #9
You are right. former9thward Jul 2023 #21
Oh, 400 million is just the start. Multiple projections show at least double that by 2100, some Celerity Jul 2023 #15
Not with this coming. roamer65 Jul 2023 #17
I think we'll be back to the stone ages by then.. ecstatic Jul 2023 #20
These population projections never pan out Showbizkid Jul 2023 #23
It's from a large study & other data that show a massive DE-population in most of the world by 2100. Celerity Jul 2023 #24
That kinda proves my point Showbizkid Jul 2023 #25
We shall see. Climate change was factored in, but perhaps not enough. Celerity Jul 2023 #27
That's one side of a two-sided coin Showbizkid Jul 2023 #29
Assuming the borders of Nigeria stay the same DFW Jul 2023 #10
The Chinese megafarms in Siberia will handle this Showbizkid Jul 2023 #11
Food for oil, eh? DFW Jul 2023 #13
wow can you imagine all the nigerian princes who will need our help to get cash out of the country?? dembotoz Jul 2023 #12
I heard of one guy who actually got the better of them DFW Jul 2023 #14
Nigeria is going to be nearly uninhabitable by 2050. roamer65 Jul 2023 #16
too hot? BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2023 #18
Yeah. roamer65 Jul 2023 #19
& regressive/wingnut Texas has surplus of $32.7BILLION and takes BIDEN cash UTUSN Jul 2023 #22
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