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Crunchy Frog

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22. You know that you're quoting Kremlin propaganda talking points
Tue Jul 18, 2023, 01:40 AM
Jul 2023

verbatim, don't you? Of course you do.

Russia and the US have had nukes pointed at each other for almost as long as the Cold War has been going on. It's never been a reason or a justification for either country to invade a 3rd country.

What do russia or China being "pals" with various Latin American countries have to do with anything? Russia's been "pals" with Cuba since 1959, and they're "pals" with various other Latin American countries as well. We've behaved abominably towards Cuba, but it is still an independent country with close ties to russia.

What do nukes have to do with this? Is this the "We have to give Putin everything he wants or he'll incinerate the world" hysteria? Or is it the "we were on the verge of putting nukes on Ukrainian territory pointed at russia, and they invaded just in time to stop us" conspiracy theory?

Did you know that when it became independent, Ukraine had the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world? And that it was the US president Bill Clinton who essentially forced them into agreeing to turn them all over to russia and join the Non-Proliferation Treaty? Do you think that's an indication that we now have the intention to place nukes there? Did you know that in return for giving up its nukes, the US, UK, and russia all signed an agreement, the Budapest Memorandum, which they believed to be a guarantee that their sovereignty and territorial integrity would be protected? Yes, russia agreed to respect their territorial integrity and never invade them. How's that working out?

And sorry but NATO's nukes aren't going anywhere. It would be utter insanity for NATO to unilaterally disarm under current conditions.

Noam and Cornell are either idiots or are active russian agents. It's not for me to say which.

In any event, your post is a mindlessly regurgitated word salad of russian talking points and I hope that you will try to better inform yourself about what's really going on.

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Another guy who has never been elected to anything and thinks he knows more than the president Walleye Jul 2023 #1
West, RFK JR, Manchin, Williamson - ALL TRUMPERS. 617Blue Jul 2023 #2
Definite point, but that credits them with too much positivity. Hortensis Jul 2023 #10
Man on soapbox Casady1 Jul 2023 #3
I just don't understand it Effete Snob Jul 2023 #4
All from the School of Noam Chomsky... tman Jul 2023 #5
Variations on a type -- In their case intellectual-STYLED rhetoric Hortensis Jul 2023 #11
nobody wins in a nuclear war GenXer47 Jul 2023 #14
You realize that there are Russian nuclear subs within striking distance of the U.S. right... LudwigPastorius Jul 2023 #18
You know that you're quoting Kremlin propaganda talking points Crunchy Frog Jul 2023 #22
Contrarian wryter2000 Jul 2023 #6
Exactly right FrankBooth Jul 2023 #25
West and Stein are Putin puppets LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #7
Her family is Russian. Her loyalty is to Russia. She's a shill for Putin. nt okaawhatever Jul 2023 #12
A pure vanity candidate tritsofme Jul 2023 #8
It's So Simple, Sir, It's Practically Simple-Minded The Magistrate Jul 2023 #9
You know that the only reason that Eve made Adam eat that apple, Crunchy Frog Jul 2023 #23
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #13
NATO "provoked" Putin's invasion of Ukraine? ShazzieB Jul 2023 #15
... spanone Jul 2023 #16
The first principle of this Leftism is that all Western Democracies are evil, corrupt, exploiters Showbizkid Jul 2023 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2023 #19
West is an idiot or foreign policy and has no business trying to re-elect TFG LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #20
... Celerity Jul 2023 #21
I'm sure he was saying Iraq provoked us into attacking them as well. W_HAMILTON Jul 2023 #24
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