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57. LOL! Where did you get the idea that "I don't know" means "No"? ChatGPT?

Fri Jul 21, 2023, 07:56 PM

Jul 2023

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I hadn't bothered to google it. I did just now. Looks as though there has been some litigation. Most authors do not want to go farther than cease-and-desist letters. And George R.R. Martin has made his dislike of fanfic well known, something Swayne could have discovered with a few minutes' googling, which makes what he did with ChatGPT even nastier and more insulting to Martin. As I said, Swayne is an asshole.

https://cbaatthebar.chicagobar.org/2022/11/11/the-fine-line-between-fan-art-fan-fiction-and-finding-yourself-sued/

https://www.trademarkandcopyrightlawblog.com/2016/10/10-copyright-cases-every-fan-fiction-writer-should-know-about/

https://kotaku.com/it-used-to-be-perilous-to-write-fanfiction-1826083509

https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/20/14340666/axanar-productions-settled-lawsuit-paramount-star-trek-fanfilm

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Some asshole used ChatGPT to write two novels to finish the series Game of Thrones is based on [View all] highplainsdem Jul 2023 OP

Meh. Fan fiction is pretty well established. unblock Jul 2023 #1

This is NOT typical fan fic. The use of AI is particularly despicable in the highplainsdem Jul 2023 #3

The strike is not literary writers SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2023 #7

Good point. nt BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #13

Martin is a WGA member, and not the only one who writes novels and highplainsdem Jul 2023 #15

All irrelevant SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2023 #42

I don't see it as being any different than fan fiction XorXor Jul 2023 #25

Words are cheap and easy to avoid, whatever the source. hunter Jul 2023 #49

"...but if it's for free, MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #59

It's not at the same thing unblock Jul 2023 #70

Martin kept fans on hold promising two books that he never delivered. I don't have too much JohnSJ Jul 2023 #2

It's Martin's series. It isn't owned by the fans. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #4

Let him sue. Whatever chapGPT produced it is still Marin's work because it is derived from JohnSJ Jul 2023 #6

Is he upset by it? I would imagine the people most upset are those who write fan finction XorXor Jul 2023 #50

Good analysis JohnSJ Jul 2023 #60

And I see political ads putting words into mouths. TreasonousBastard Jul 2023 #5

We'll be seeing much more of that, too. With AI, this next election highplainsdem Jul 2023 #9

If he had written the million words himself pinkstarburst Jul 2023 #8

I agree that using AI is the main problem here. Btw, fanfic writers are upset with highplainsdem Jul 2023 #11

I understand all this pinkstarburst Jul 2023 #55

Maybe ol' Georgie boy should have written them himself, if he's so worried sir pball Jul 2023 #10

See reply 11. And please show more respect for artists. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #12

Your feelings are noted. nt sir pball Jul 2023 #14

So is your lack of concern for artists. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #16

If that's how you feel I think, good for you. sir pball Jul 2023 #18

I have seen you praise some musical artists, but now I have highplainsdem Jul 2023 #19

Lol. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #23

Wow. So calling him "ol' Georgie boy" was meant to be respectful, along with highplainsdem Jul 2023 #24

Sorry, I'm not nearly as worked up about all this as you seem to be. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #26

I have met him, long ago, and I read a lot of his early work, highplainsdem Jul 2023 #43

He's too lazy to finish them. BannonsLiver Jul 2023 #30

Is the one who used the AI profiting from it? Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #17

It isn't "just for fun" when generative AI is used. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #21

How long before AI fills the internet with with very positive reviews of AI? Prairie_Seagull Jul 2023 #20

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Jul 2023 #22

You've apparently never heard of fan fiction... brooklynite Jul 2023 #27

Have been hearing about it for over 50 years, since the days when fanzines highplainsdem Jul 2023 #37

Again, is there any evidence of an intent to monetize? brooklynite Jul 2023 #39

People who create fan fiction can be sued even if they aren't making money highplainsdem Jul 2023 #41

Martin hasn't apparently chosen to sue at this point... brooklynite Jul 2023 #71

It's just fan fiction, only that the fan is a bot Polybius Jul 2023 #28

Martin is too lazy to finish the books so this will probably be the closest to an actual ending. BannonsLiver Jul 2023 #29

I think he wrote himself into a corner Retrograde Jul 2023 #31

Mildly amusing use of AI. Not an asshole. Bonx Jul 2023 #32

Sounds like fun TrotskyistTidings Jul 2023 #33

If he wants to experiment, have it finish Edwin Drood Retrograde Jul 2023 #34

I think they'll all be okay in the morning Snooper9 Jul 2023 #35

A.I. ... orleans Jul 2023 #36

If he doesn't make money off it, it's fan fiction mainer Jul 2023 #38

Yes, he can be sued. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #40

Has anyone ever been successfully sued over fan fiction? honest.abe Jul 2023 #45

I don't know. But it isn't legal without the consent of the creatives whose work highplainsdem Jul 2023 #46

So no. As I suspected. honest.abe Jul 2023 #47

LOL! Where did you get the idea that "I don't know" means "No"? ChatGPT? highplainsdem Jul 2023 #57

None of those links answer what I asked. honest.abe Jul 2023 #65

Sigh. The last link alone, as you can see reading the URL, is about a highplainsdem Jul 2023 #69

That case was about someone making money from their fan film. honest.abe Jul 2023 #73

"I don't know" does not equal "No." Iggo Jul 2023 #64

In this case it sure does. honest.abe Jul 2023 #67

Paramount and Star Trek seem to have no problem. WarGamer Jul 2023 #54

See the last linked article in reply 57. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #58

that's cool... so Paramount allows fan fiction content with some guidance WarGamer Jul 2023 #61

Fan fiction can cause some very serious problems for highplainsdem Jul 2023 #63

Well, considering GRRM hasn't written a new book since Bill Clinton was President obamanut2012 Jul 2023 #44

Dance of Dragons was released in 2011 Sympthsical Jul 2023 #48

fan fiction is nothing new... WarGamer Jul 2023 #51

Not true. See reply 40. highplainsdem Jul 2023 #53

FWIW, I bet AI did a better job than the TV runners on HBO. WarGamer Jul 2023 #52

I am MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #56

I'm stunned that some DUers seem to have little respect or concern highplainsdem Jul 2023 #62

I don't have the patience to slog through two AI-written novels, but I find it hard to believe... Silent3 Jul 2023 #66

DURec leftstreet Jul 2023 #68

Fan Fiction is awesome AnyFunctioningAdult Jul 2023 #72

It isn't usually awesome for the creator of that world. See highplainsdem Jul 2023 #74

If GRRM had gotten off his ass and finished the series it wouldn't be a problem ripcord Jul 2023 #75