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7. Fostering unpleasant feelings only centers white people in discussions about race, which isn't super

Reply to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun Jul 23, 2023, 01:39 PM

Jul 2023

helpful. Dismantling white supremacy is not going to come from people who feel ashamed.

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I think being "woke" ought to make white people feel bad [View all] cyclonefence Jul 2023 OP

This country was literally built on white supremacy ismnotwasm Jul 2023 #1

Hogwash wryter2000 Jul 2023 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Stardust Mirror Jul 2023 #4

Zappa didn't say he wanted to be black Stardust Mirror Jul 2023 #5

I have no problem with that wryter2000 Jul 2023 #9

Exactly NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #6

IMHO, the whole thing about children feeling guilty is made up wryter2000 Jul 2023 #10

Agreed NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #11

As so often happens here at DU cyclonefence Jul 2023 #18

Often enough, that's the desired effect. Iggo Jul 2023 #21

I read the post wryter2000 Jul 2023 #31

Nope cyclonefence Jul 2023 #38

From the end of the post wryter2000 Jul 2023 #45

How long should we be ashamed for events that we had no control over? Chainfire Jul 2023 #3

Starts with the Children NowISeetheLight Jul 2023 #13

Just treat everyone fairly in life. It's that simple. No one should be ashamed... brush Jul 2023 #17

But don't you see cyclonefence Jul 2023 #39

Well of course, but the chances of reparations paid to descendants of... brush Jul 2023 #40

I don't dare speak of financial reparations cyclonefence Jul 2023 #43

You understand. Reparations will probably never happen. brush Jul 2023 #44

Fostering unpleasant feelings only centers white people in discussions about race, which isn't super WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2023 #7

I partly agree with you gulliver Jul 2023 #12

This is counterproductive. Sky Jewels Jul 2023 #8

No one should be ashamed, even if family history has... brush Jul 2023 #16

Well put TheProle Jul 2023 #33

Depends on what you want to produce. Iggo Jul 2023 #22

People should be ashamed of their skin color? Sympthsical Jul 2023 #14

Great post. So well stated. brush Jul 2023 #15

bad messaging treestar Jul 2023 #19

Agree 💯👍 NT Tickle Jul 2023 #24

"Quit teaching black kids they are victims of racism and they won't feel like they are" Stardust Mirror Jul 2023 #26

how often does that happen in the 2020s? treestar Jul 2023 #27

how often do blacks experience racism in the 2020s? Stardust Mirror Jul 2023 #29

the police were tried and do lose the job treestar Jul 2023 #35

Teach the truth. And teach also of the great successes of Black people... brush Jul 2023 #42

Well, that's a weird thing to say. Iggo Jul 2023 #20

If we didn't write nonsense like this, the RW would have to invent it. tritsofme Jul 2023 #23

Well, I see I'm late to the party again DFW Jul 2023 #25

Actually, the Zappa lyrics are maxsolomon Jul 2023 #28

That makes a lot more sense than him saying he wished he was black. ShazzieB Jul 2023 #41

No thanks, I'm not playing that game. nt Raine Jul 2023 #30

I think the term woke is hopelessly cheesy and lame BannonsLiver Jul 2023 #32

I s'pose if I've ever felt pride towards the actions of my ancestors, Torchlight Jul 2023 #34

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2023 #36

I know people whose parents and grandparents were actual Nazis. Should they feel bad? hunter Jul 2023 #37

after watching Joy today, I was wondering if maybe the real reason tiny d is against black history ecstatic Jul 2023 #46

I think there's truth in what you say cyclonefence Jul 2023 #47