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ExWhoDoesntCare

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48. Most pubs and nightclubs do not have hosts and expediters.
Tue Aug 1, 2023, 12:08 AM
Aug 2023

I was a cocktail waitress for a brief time back in the old days, and here's what I remember of the experience:

Nightclubs had someone at the door to check IDs. That is *not* a job for a 14 y/o, for obvious reasons. Which is why having 14 y/o servers asking people for IDs is also a bad idea at establishments which serve all ages, but also have alcohol available. Some of the tensest moments I ever had as a server were the alcohol ID checks, and I was an adult. I can't imagine a 14 y/o facing some of the people I had to refuse (or cut off).

At regular pubs without servers, bartenders did the ID checks.

I don't know about now, but back in the old days, we servers did the vast majority of the bussing, with some help from the barback when things got more hectic than usual. Only the biggest and busiest establishments had bussers.

Most pubs didn't have expediters, and they'd give you a strange look if you even said the word to them. The busiest pubs had the owner/manager keeping the orders straight and flowing smoothly on busier nights, but, most of the time, servers placed the orders with bartenders directly, first come, first serve.

Changes for the better: The last time I was in a fairly busy pub, the servers didn't have to leave the main floor to place the orders--just send it over a computer tucked in a cubby nearby, and the bartender would get to it when it came up. The pub must have had some kind of signal system to let servers know when orders were ready, because they somehow knew when to pick them up. No expediters necessary, and managers probably aren't as necessary at peak times, either.

I envy these modern servers the steps they're saving by not having to go to the bartender to place the order then going back to picking up orders, too. I bet their feet don't hurt nearly as much as mine did.

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But they'll balance it by not letting them vote to they're 26 Bucky Jul 2023 #1
Don't give them any ideas. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #4
What will be next? Minors dispensing Rx at a pharmacy without a license? LiberalFighter Jul 2023 #2
What will they be paid? LiberalFighter Jul 2023 #3
What are they paid now? former9thward Jul 2023 #39
If you need them that bad, multigraincracker Jul 2023 #5
That would solve this problem, the last thing cons want is to actually pay people Eliot Rosewater Jul 2023 #22
Do you want to drive restaurants out of business? former9thward Jul 2023 #47
Lots of restaurants have no kids multigraincracker Aug 2023 #59
So ban all "kids". former9thward Aug 2023 #67
Uh huh. Elessar Zappa Aug 2023 #61
That sounds like a personal attack which is against DU's TOS. former9thward Aug 2023 #68
This is not fucking satire? Autumn Jul 2023 #6
Old enough to bring drunk adults more beer Diamond_Dog Jul 2023 #7
How is that different Zeitghost Jul 2023 #24
Not exactly sure why the distinction of actually bringing drinks to the table Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #8
Hugh, I think the worry is Diamond_Dog Jul 2023 #26
Fair enough, but I rather doubt any place is going to employ a 14 year old as an actual server Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #27
Of course Diamond_Dog Jul 2023 #29
And I'm saying the arguments for not letting them bring alcohol to the table (e.g. serving) Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #30
I agree. Diamond_Dog Jul 2023 #32
And then again you'd have 15 year olds that are like holy shit I can buy so much stuff I want Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #33
Well I suppose that's true Diamond_Dog Jul 2023 #34
Most pubs and nightclubs do not have hosts and expediters. ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #48
Maybe I have this all wrong but I'm operating under the assumption that nobody is talking Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #57
I do genealogy which involves Censuses for resources. LiberalFighter Jul 2023 #9
I think if you'd looked at some of the mom & pop outfits ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #49
None of those I spotted had the parent running a restaurant or bar with kids. LiberalFighter Aug 2023 #62
LOL. "give them valuable work experience" - I think I've recently heard that elsewhere. PSPS Jul 2023 #10
I got paid 7.5 cents a bail at 13 to throw hay on a wagon Snooper9 Aug 2023 #52
What could go wrong with children serving alcohol to drunks? Chainfire Jul 2023 #11
Gee, if only there was a pool of people who really really wanted to work! tulipsandroses Jul 2023 #12
I did some cocktail waitressing and bartending at 18 viva la Jul 2023 #13
Should 14 year olds be banned at restaurant work? former9thward Jul 2023 #35
I'm for banning anyone under 16 from working at any job ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #42
::shrugs:: GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #45
Because building a work ethic is more important than playing non stop video games. former9thward Jul 2023 #46
It is physically risky work. viva la Aug 2023 #50
They'll work for what employers are willing to pay. Dulcinea Jul 2023 #14
Wisconsin: the state that wanted to prosecute the Slenderman girls who were 12 elocs Jul 2023 #15
The one thing that I am upset is missing from these kind of discussions about immigrants Mad_Machine76 Jul 2023 #16
The biggest problem I have with this is that a 14 year old lacks the emotional maturity needed. patphil Jul 2023 #17
Your story is not what is happening. former9thward Jul 2023 #36
Ok, but the original post implied the owner of the bar needed a bartender. patphil Jul 2023 #43
If you're at a table, not at the bar Snooper9 Aug 2023 #54
Sexual assault also. viva la Aug 2023 #51
+4000 Snooper9 Aug 2023 #53
I really don't think 14 y.o. bartenders is what's being contemplated here Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #58
The original post doesn't make that clear, but the full article does. patphil Aug 2023 #64
I very often end up having takes that are mistaken because I didn't read the whole article Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #65
Not a fan. Igel Jul 2023 #18
they want slavery back SO BAD librechik Jul 2023 #19
Yet, they shouldn't vote until they're 25. mzmolly Jul 2023 #20
They are probably wanting better looking people instead of the obese and meth-addled ones LiberalArkie Jul 2023 #21
Republicans' shameless enthusiasm for child labor is disgusting nt redqueen Jul 2023 #23
This is about alcohol not child labor. former9thward Jul 2023 #37
10-year-olds working unpaid until 2 a.m. at McDonald's. moondust Jul 2023 #25
The REAL groomers at work Red Mountain Jul 2023 #28
Can a 14 year old be sued for over serving? Iggo Jul 2023 #31
First, employees are not sued. former9thward Jul 2023 #38
14?! Isn't jail-bait even a thing anymore? Hekate Jul 2023 #40
Nobody wants to work for you because you're a cheap wanker ExWhoDoesntCare Jul 2023 #41
I have no problems with kids working limited hours GenThePerservering Jul 2023 #44
Should children be working restaurant jobs for shit wages and no benefits serving alcohol? Initech Aug 2023 #55
Exploitation for profit motive. Brainfodder Aug 2023 #56
Movie about that town (Freedom, WI) is coming later this year. Celerity Aug 2023 #60
Kick bronxiteforever Aug 2023 #63
Creepiness has leading indicators. Torchlight Aug 2023 #66
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