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llmart

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42. I don't believe anyone on DU has ever seen her official ID such as driver's license or passport, etc
Thu Aug 3, 2023, 02:38 PM
Aug 2023

So none of us have any idea if she ever took his name or not. She could have decided to use her maiden name for professional reasons but took his name. Just because someone says their name is Andrea Mitchell and not Andrea Greenspan doesn't mean it's true.

This is coming from someone (me) who, during my career, has had to ID people from all over the world to get their legal names. I worked at a university onboarding professors and deans and nurses, lecturers, performers. It's a place where you typically get all sorts of people from all walks of life. I had a transgender person in the university library who wanted to go by a certain name, but until they could show me proof that they had legally changed their name, I very nicely told them that I would have to enter their name on all their paperwork and in the university directory as their former name. The person was understanding about it and did legally get the name change and brought me the legal documents.

My point is, it's pretty ridiculous that you are so upset by this as if you are a personal friend of Andrea what's-her-name, unless you know her personally.

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I agree with your point, obamanut2020. MontanaMama Aug 2023 #1
I agree with you, Mama Deuxcents Aug 2023 #4
Yup, lots of perfectly good non-sexist names to call her! obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #21
So be nice to people who crap on Democrats. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #2
It's simple Sympthsical Aug 2023 #7
Rhetorically, that is not the issue. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #10
So sexist epithets are "argumentation" Sympthsical Aug 2023 #12
So, where did I say any of that? Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #17
Your response to the OP Sympthsical Aug 2023 #20
No, the OP was directing me to refer to Andrea Mitchell as Andrea Mitchell. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #28
No, the OP was about A.M. being referred to as "Mrs. Greenspan" but Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #46
No, you are replying to what I wrote in reply to that. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #59
Is "pre-censoring" what you call following DU rules? whathehell Aug 2023 #165
No, I will chose my own words to describe Andrea Mitchell or Alan Greenspan. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #170
Lol..If you break any DU rules whathehell Aug 2023 #173
Is Andrea Mitchell a Republican? brooklynite Aug 2023 #49
She certainly reports like one. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #56
I am pretty sure she is Republican. BigDemVoter Aug 2023 #81
"I am pretty sure...."; definitely a smoking gun. brooklynite Aug 2023 #87
She generally favors conservative republican causes & candidates with her reporting and BigDemVoter Aug 2023 #107
Are racist epithets "argumentation"? whathehell Aug 2023 #76
Exactly obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #22
Exactly.. whathehell Aug 2023 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #102
lol I said nothing of the sort obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #23
You demand I refer to someone who considers me and my politics as inferiors with respect. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #36
No. The demand was to not refer to her as an appendage of her husband Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #51
I know she is hard on Hillary treestar Aug 2023 #131
The point isn't her feelings. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #132
her feeling don't matter, good treestar Aug 2023 #138
That isn't even close to what the OP said mcar Aug 2023 #55
And that's not what I wrote. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #57
Yes, using 'gender neutral' insults isn't hard. whathehell Aug 2023 #72
It really is that easy mcar Aug 2023 #74
Yes, thank you.. whathehell Aug 2023 #84
a very low bar for that treestar Aug 2023 #139
So "mildly" racist and sexist terms are ok with you? whathehell Aug 2023 #146
then you will be scolding a lot of people treestar Aug 2023 #157
That's fine. whathehell Aug 2023 #158
others could read it treestar Aug 2023 #169
That's not my problem. I stand by my statements, whathehell Aug 2023 #174
Yeah, we don't even have to attach her to that piece of shit spouse of hers. BigDemVoter Aug 2023 #82
Right? mcar Aug 2023 #89
With your logic it would be acceptable to call Justice Thomas "Sambo" or Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #37
That is not what I said. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #43
To be fair, I have seen several "Uncle Tom" posts over the years AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2023 #103
It is not nearly that bad, come on treestar Aug 2023 #129
That is not the issue we can do it Aug 2023 #108
So be polite to the people who crap on us. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #109
Sexism is never correct we can do it Aug 2023 #110
I never said it was. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #111
This is one example, and I have been here that long. Tenure is no excuse. we can do it Aug 2023 #112
Excuse for what? Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #113
I avoid her hour on MSNBC like the plague. Disgusted to see her on the round table. Switched to Comfortably_Numb Aug 2023 #3
Well shit. There she is... Comfortably_Numb Aug 2023 #6
lol obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #25
Duly noted EYESORE 9001 Aug 2023 #5
I, as woman, find it more of an insult to Mr Greenspan. LakeArenal Aug 2023 #8
Well said, thx obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #27
Ok BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #9
Can't stand her chillfactor Aug 2023 #11
Been Saying That For Years ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #13
Thanks, you get it obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #29
I've Got One Hanging On The Wall ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #40
Well said! mcar Aug 2023 #58
How do you feel about all the posts that call Trump by everything Pathwalker Aug 2023 #14
Make your own OP obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #30
There have been attempts to police those as well. BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #38
This post is specifically about calling a woman by her husband's last name NYC Liberal Aug 2023 #52
The difference is, he's attacked for his character, or lack of such, whathehell Aug 2023 #147
Here's Andrea Mitchell sleeping on the job tenderfoot Aug 2023 #15
Wow XanaDUer2 Aug 2023 #143
If Biden dozed off in an interview like that, Andrea would spend all show talking about it. 40oz to Freedom Aug 2023 #148
Ms. Mitchell/Mrs. Greenspan is still the same Polly Hennessey Aug 2023 #16
Her Married Name Is Mitchell ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #41
She doesn't have a married name. delisen Aug 2023 #48
Excellent point. B.See Aug 2023 #101
Sure..Except we don't hear Alan Greenspan whathehell Aug 2023 #149
This message was self-deleted by its author Polly Hennessey Aug 2023 #18
Well, the lesson from this thread seems to be AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2023 #19
Your expectation is that we be pure of heart and mouth. Polly Hennessey Aug 2023 #26
I expect that of everyone AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2023 #35
No, our expectations are that, if warranted, whathehell Aug 2023 #151
Right, except then it makes us hypocrites whathehell Aug 2023 #167
As long as she still puts President in front of trump's name mountain grammy Aug 2023 #24
That is contemporary media practice. former9thward Aug 2023 #119
it's not required.. mountain grammy Aug 2023 #134
Nothing is required in life. former9thward Aug 2023 #135
Some people get really pissy when a woman doesn't take her husbands name. nt LexVegas Aug 2023 #31
Indeed obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #33
One poster said their posted agism was justified earlier in another thread. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #32
I saw that obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #34
wait, you actually think people call her that because they think women should change their last name prodigitalson Aug 2023 #39
Had the same reaction. BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #44
Ummm.... I didn't even imply that in any way obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #66
I think almost all who call her Mrs Greenspan are doing it to tie her to that RW POS and expose Celerity Aug 2023 #77
Agreed Red Mountain Aug 2023 #98
Thank you! Of course you are completely right. Judi Lynn Aug 2023 #144
lol when did I say that? obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #65
Lol never said you did BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #91
how is it sexist treestar Aug 2023 #140
I think most people's default is she took her husband's name in marriage but kept Mitchell intheflow Aug 2023 #93
"Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left" whathehell Aug 2023 #168
+1 intheflow Aug 2023 #172
I don't believe anyone on DU has ever seen her official ID such as driver's license or passport, etc llmart Aug 2023 #42
Masking a woman merely an appendage of the man she married Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #60
Now some people upthread are saying I think a woman should change her name obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #68
a person's choice of life partner is an indication of their character prodigitalson Aug 2023 #104
To the extent it is relevant, it is sexist to make the connection Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #114
so if I were to say to Eva Braun...well well who do we have here, if it isn't prodigitalson Aug 2023 #115
Yes. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #116
should I apologize to her? prodigitalson Aug 2023 #117
It is far less about the specific person you are insulting using sexist comments Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #118
you do know Hitler was, right? prodigitalson Aug 2023 #120
This isn't about Hitler. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #123
But would it even be appropriate for Eva to complain about it (being called Mrs. Adolph Hitler) prodigitalson Aug 2023 #124
This isn't about Hitler, or Greenspan. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #125
yeah, but it is about Hitler prodigitalson Aug 2023 #126
There are those who DO choose to take the treestar Aug 2023 #127
Referring to someone as Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #133
I wasn't talking about me, but about women who choose to change to treestar Aug 2023 #137
Thank you..Why do these threads whathehell Aug 2023 #160
Misogyny has a couple of related bigotries that are still acceptable Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #161
I don't see it here on DU.. whathehell Aug 2023 #162
You're not looking then. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #163
Oh, I'm looking.. whathehell Aug 2023 #164
When has she ever professionally referred to herself as Andrea Greenspan? obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #67
and as if Andrea is terribly hurt by it treestar Aug 2023 #141
Lol..So now you're using Right Wing memes like whathehell Aug 2023 #152
are there no degrees of sexism? treestar Aug 2023 #156
I agree. Lunabell Aug 2023 #45
there does have to be some way to capture the southern gothic archetype that is Lindsey Graham prodigitalson Aug 2023 #130
Thank you. How many times have we had to do this? NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2023 #47
K&R demmiblue Aug 2023 #50
I posted a similar OP about a year ago mcar Aug 2023 #53
I actually remember that OP and think I agreed with you! obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #62
Thank you. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #54
Exactly obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #63
THANK YOU, I agree. elleng Aug 2023 #61
You are welcome! obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #64
THANK You!. As writer Katha Pollitt has said whathehell Aug 2023 #69
Is it still okay to call Trump Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #70
Mrs. Greenspan to me Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #71
Why? mcar Aug 2023 #78
because I always want to tie Alan Greenspan's cratering of global economy Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #86
I saw it as trying to remind people that she is married to a scumbag Repub Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2023 #73
She's bad enough without making her an appendage of her mcar Aug 2023 #79
True that n/t Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2023 #80
That is how I saw it edhopper Aug 2023 #83
I think that name is used to remind us who she is married to... SalviaBlue Aug 2023 #75
And is she responsible for Greenspan's policies? brooklynite Aug 2023 #90
I didn't say that. SalviaBlue Aug 2023 #92
You can do that without pretending she doesn't exist independent of her husband. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #94
Funny how nobody holds Ronald Reagan's policies against his son Ron... brooklynite Aug 2023 #95
I was trying not to get tangled up in whether it was even relevant. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #96
There are many political relatives that break away. SalviaBlue Aug 2023 #99
K&R betsuni Aug 2023 #88
Thank you for the reminder, Obamanut. Out of respect, by the same token, ... Hekate Aug 2023 #97
Nor, rightfully, do we whathehell Aug 2023 #153
Well your right in a way but it's actually Mrs. Allen Greenspan. ArnoldLayne Aug 2023 #105
Well your right in a way but it's actually Mrs. Allen Greenspan ArnoldLayne Aug 2023 #106
Out of all the problems in the world, this is not one of them! Emile Aug 2023 #121
Andrea Mitchell's husband destroyed the economy leftstreet Aug 2023 #122
Right wingers aren't snowflakes treestar Aug 2023 #128
She and her husband have done a lot of damage RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2023 #136
and her game is GOP whataboutism... 617Blue Aug 2023 #142
In my house her name is "mud" Jersey Devil Aug 2023 #145
I don't care what anybody calls Andrea Mitchell. Just don't call her a decent human being. Autumn Aug 2023 #150
Thank you, excellent point. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2023 #154
I call her Andrea Mitchell but I think this OP is one opinion of many ecstatic Aug 2023 #155
No it's not it's actually Mrs. Allan Greenspan ArnoldLayne Aug 2023 #159
Nah, I think Alan is Mr. Andrea Mitchell. whathehell Aug 2023 #166
It's Mrs. Andrea Greenspan legally. ArnoldLayne Aug 2023 #171
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