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86. They should have heeded the words of Goethe's Sorcerer's Apprentice

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Wed Aug 9, 2023, 10:26 AM

Aug 2023

Die ich rief, die Geister
werd ich nun nicht los.

"The spirits I have summoned, I can no longer be rid of them."

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Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak' [View all] William769 Aug 2023 OP

Turning on Jesus? madashelltoo Aug 2023 #1

It burbs my ass that they gave hihacked relidion all these years William769 Aug 2023 #4

When you're a rabid dog... dlk Aug 2023 #90

THIS!!! calimary Aug 2023 #137

Amen to that! dlk Aug 2023 #150

beatitudes have been deleted too. pansypoo53219 Aug 2023 #203

Why am I not surprised. calimary Aug 2023 #207

Cruelty had replaced their belief in the common good dlk Aug 2023 #225

Trump has made them abandon their faith..... diverdownjt Aug 2023 #221

"How can they not see what is happening directly to them?" Effete Snob Aug 2023 #227

it's the baptists, as always azureblue Aug 2023 #183

Woke Jesus isn't the real Jesus Zorro Aug 2023 #2

LOL if only the nimwits could actually comprehend what it means to be woke onetexan Aug 2023 #75

MAGAts want this guy EYESORE 9001 Aug 2023 #3

... William769 Aug 2023 #5

and we thought buddy christ was bad. mopinko Aug 2023 #8

I'd take Buddy Christ in a heartbeat... nt kimmylavin Aug 2023 #156

That Jeebus isn't white enough. LakeArenal Aug 2023 #12

Dolph Lundgren wasn't available, apparently EYESORE 9001 Aug 2023 #18

Today's American evangelical christianity is the past's conversion by sword sanatanadharma Aug 2023 #6

Only in the OT! True Blue American Aug 2023 #19

True and they do not have the time nor ego to evangelize instead leaving all to the Lord sanatanadharma Aug 2023 #26

Amen! True Blue American Aug 2023 #170

Not for the better part of 2000 years Effete Snob Aug 2023 #31

Enlightened Christians follow True Blue American Aug 2023 #171

Okay, let's talk about Jesus' words in the New Testament Effete Snob Aug 2023 #173

Where did you get True Blue American Aug 2023 #176

Oh, so she was a prostitute now, eh? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #179

Was he lying? True Blue American Aug 2023 #185

Where does it say she was a prostitute? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #187

There is a story where Jesus told a woman to go and sin no more Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2023 #212

Not during the Crusades, they didn't. yardwork Aug 2023 #43

Or subjugation of the New World Effete Snob Aug 2023 #58

And so forth and so on... yardwork Aug 2023 #59

Yep! mountain grammy Aug 2023 #67

Don't forget that the tanks in the Blitzkrieg SCantiGOP Aug 2023 #97

Or in that film clip of that priest blessing the ravening hordes from Mussolini's balcony. NBachers Aug 2023 #128

Yep Effete Snob Aug 2023 #133

Scripturally, that's true soldierant Aug 2023 #168

There's Power in the Blood, In the Blood of the Lamb MagickMuffin Aug 2023 #81

You also engaged in ritual cannibalism, temporary311 Aug 2023 #157

The Supper or Communion has been debated WalkerinSC Aug 2023 #161

Please don't repeat that old trope stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #178

Doesn't that presume that the people saying these things are fundies? Renew Deal Aug 2023 #209

Deplorable isn't it? NoMoreRepugs Aug 2023 #7

Worship of the golden calf, that section they get! Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #94

Okay atreides1 Aug 2023 #9

The Slobfather is their new gawd malaise Aug 2023 #10

They did build a golden idol of him and had it on display. nattyice Aug 2023 #45

Lest we forget! 2naSalit Aug 2023 #106

Bwaaaaaaah malaise Aug 2023 #119

Ah yes, golden Big Boy/Jesus statue. Xavier Breath Aug 2023 #141

Shades of Trump Magats NowISeetheLight Aug 2023 #205

If True RobinA Aug 2023 #11

President Trump walks across Lafayette Park to St. John's Church stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #13

Pastors should ask when did they stop worshipping Jesus and turned to halfulglas Aug 2023 #14

They finally dispose of the hypocrisy. We've always known this... OneGrassRoot Aug 2023 #15

Organized Fundamentalist Christianity is poison. roamer65 Aug 2023 #16

Yes, but not usually by the Presbyterians or Methodists or Episcopalians or Lutheran or LiberalArkie Aug 2023 #72

True. There are non-extremists. roamer65 Aug 2023 #80

A word about Martin Luther Effete Snob Aug 2023 #108

Jesus was about the most woke man in history! How the hypocrisy doesn't kill them is amazing! Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #95

If "woke" includes eternal punishment for various infractions Effete Snob Aug 2023 #111

To that point, why aren't the trump-loving colorado_ufo Aug 2023 #147

That should be obvious Effete Snob Aug 2023 #152

Good one! colorado_ufo Aug 2023 #163

Reap what you sow, assholes. (nt) Paladin Aug 2023 #17

GOP Jesus Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #20

An oldie, but a goody! geardaddy Aug 2023 #42

It's not Christianity. Hasn't been for decades. It's a religion of hate and bigotry Roland99 Aug 2023 #21

Agree, 100%! True Blue American Aug 2023 #25

It's more in line with traditional Christianity Effete Snob Aug 2023 #30

Yep! Well Said!! MayReasonRule Aug 2023 #33

They fought wars against their former masters. stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #52

Exactly! mountain grammy Aug 2023 #65

The OT was written True Blue American Aug 2023 #172

Yes, and? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #184

And what? I described what christians follow. True Blue American Aug 2023 #190

Did Jesus believe the Old Testament? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #191

Am I the only heathen enjoying a bit of schadenfreude with my morning coffee? -nt CrispyQ Aug 2023 #22

Fellow heathen here--right with you. pandr32 Aug 2023 #101

It takes some big huevos sarisataka Aug 2023 #23

Oh, boy. What trump has wrought. Is he our national comeuppance... brush Aug 2023 #24

They are members of "Club 666" NCjack Aug 2023 #55

LONG before he came down the escalator Cosmocat Aug 2023 #93

They DROVE sane people out of their congregations Effete Snob Aug 2023 #27

Next these pastors will be alarmed when their congregants ask them to create a woman for them Bristlecone Aug 2023 #28

If I had to choose, I'd rather hang out with the Monster than these people. yardwork Aug 2023 #37

I have to laugh at this vlyons Aug 2023 #29

I don't think there's anything wrong Elessar Zappa Aug 2023 #91

There's plenty wrong with those beliefs vlyons Aug 2023 #105

If we go after those beliefs then we'll lose a big part of our base. Elessar Zappa Aug 2023 #110

Weak Jesus Charlie Chapulin Aug 2023 #32

welcome to du dembotoz Aug 2023 #40

This may be a non-sequitur. . . Collimator Aug 2023 #99

Agreed, but it's a shame none of us will probably see it happen in our lifetimes. intheflow Aug 2023 #123

These idiots are not Christians relayerbob Aug 2023 #34

They're not Christians. They aren't following Jesus. yardwork Aug 2023 #35

They made up a god just like themselves to worship. mwb970 Aug 2023 #41

Oh yes they are Effete Snob Aug 2023 #54

Oh yes they are!!! mountain grammy Aug 2023 #74

Germany was the home of the Protestant Reformation Effete Snob Aug 2023 #83

They can pick and choose.. mountain grammy Aug 2023 #89

That was Martin Luther. True Blue American Aug 2023 #174

Yes, he wrote the Jew-killing manual Effete Snob Aug 2023 #180

Have I said I was Lutheran? True Blue American Aug 2023 #188

No, did I say you were a Lutheran? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #189

You are describing True Blue American Aug 2023 #192

Martin Luther and Hitler are not Democrats Effete Snob Aug 2023 #193

I wouldn't even waste my time with this know-it-all, you must've hurt his feefees earlier bc 2live is 2fly Aug 2023 #204

Been there, done that. stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #206

Yep. The other "good Christians" put him in a concentration camp and killed him. Caliman73 Aug 2023 #177

Oh, funny irony.... Effete Snob Aug 2023 #195

It's no surprise that... stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #201

It depends on what you mean by "American Christianity" Renew Deal Aug 2023 #211

Jesus Slaves? czarjak Aug 2023 #220

I tell my evangelical family members that Trump is the antiChrist. flying_wahini Aug 2023 #36

They are both politicians. There is no antichrist except reality/science. Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #51

One thing you might also mention Effete Snob Aug 2023 #60

He doesn't fit the description of the antichrist. Mariana Aug 2023 #142

We often use the phrase 'heresy bordering on apostasy' Torchlight Aug 2023 #159

I once had an article that took it point by point slightlv Aug 2023 #218

It is amazing to observe what religion does to people. mwb970 Aug 2023 #38

Religion is intended to control people. pandr32 Aug 2023 #114

Woke Jesus. twodogsbarking Aug 2023 #39

Jesus is Fake News. Trump is the real deal dalton99a Aug 2023 #44

... William769 Aug 2023 #46

Ho. Lee. Crap! Charlie Chapulin Aug 2023 #48

Imagine that top one but with Biden's picture. Qutzupalotl Aug 2023 #112

There is no Christianity that is not selective. Guy was all over the place, said Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #47

Jesus is the original "woke" guy. milestogo Aug 2023 #49

except they'd never say believe in me, worship me or it's an eternity of hellish damnation & torture Celerity Aug 2023 #169

Really? allegorical oracle Aug 2023 #50

This is news? Their congregants have been rejecting the teachings of Jesus AllyCat Aug 2023 #53

i have always feared this dembotoz Aug 2023 #56

Absolutely Effete Snob Aug 2023 #57

I did not get my Soros money... Moostache Aug 2023 #78

he must be richer than god...gop claims he funds everything dembotoz Aug 2023 #92

It's like watching the congregation taking off their human skins and revealing their Baitball Blogger Aug 2023 #61

Fake xtians, ever the persistent bathtub ring on America Artcatt Aug 2023 #62

Gee Russell. Ya think? Scrivener7 Aug 2023 #63

Glad to hear MOMFUDSKI Aug 2023 #64

If there is a hell we will both be surprised. SledDriver Aug 2023 #66

Didn't matter to them Old Crank Aug 2023 #68

Is that so different than Muslim radicalization? Our own Christian Taliban, radicalized watching Fox ffr Aug 2023 #69

It's just that they've converted to another religion ToxMarz Aug 2023 #70

Who knew Jesus was woke? Bayard Aug 2023 #71

Reap what you sow... surfered Aug 2023 #73

They've sowed this for a long, long time Effete Snob Aug 2023 #118

Womp womp! hatrack Aug 2023 #76

It doesn't surprise me in the least. Richard58 Aug 2023 #77

Ain't no "almost worship' in this....its full on idolatry. Moostache Aug 2023 #82

Gimme that old time religion... Effete Snob Aug 2023 #121

Better get used to it. We now have Trump-centric christians, whatever they are. Martin68 Aug 2023 #79

It really shouldn't surprise these pastors...unless they were just not paying attention PortTack Aug 2023 #84

Nonstop Agitprop from waking to sleeping has that effect. mn9driver Aug 2023 #85

They should have heeded the words of Goethe's Sorcerer's Apprentice DFW Aug 2023 #86

Genie's out of that dysfunctional bottle. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2023 #87

William769.... Upthevibe Aug 2023 #88

Louis says Kennah Aug 2023 #96

"Originalist" Constitutionalists, but the Gospel "doesn't work anymore." malthaussen Aug 2023 #98

Is The Declaration Of Independence Next? OhioTim Aug 2023 #100

Pastor Moore had better start lifting weights... dchill Aug 2023 #102

Cutting into their grift Wild blueberry Aug 2023 #103

Where the hell has this guy been? BlueIdaho Aug 2023 #104

If only this was a story from The Onion WestMichRad Aug 2023 #107

I was expecting to see the Onion ecstatic Aug 2023 #210

This should not be a surprise. Trump's been hammering this for quite some time. lees1975 Aug 2023 #109

Was that pastor cloistered in a monastery somewhere? Orrex Aug 2023 #113

Denial Effete Snob Aug 2023 #116

That definitely sounds on-brand Orrex Aug 2023 #196

You can quote Jesus as a militant, or quote him as a pacifist ... TomWilm Aug 2023 #115

Yup Effete Snob Aug 2023 #117

That's not the full text of Luke 22:36-38, and it makes a difference. intheflow Aug 2023 #132

So Jesus is no pacifist, but set the rules for a well regulated militia ... TomWilm Aug 2023 #148

Obviously, he had no problem with open carry Effete Snob Aug 2023 #164

Jesus replied, "Screw the swords and go buy some AR-15s with 100 round drum magazines!" Ray Bruns Aug 2023 #222

If the Bible was clear about what it means to be a Christian Mariana Aug 2023 #145

People in power or who want power, have always used systems to try to control people. Caliman73 Aug 2023 #120

+ Effete Snob Aug 2023 #125

These Evangelicals are likely the same ilk that went after John Lennon SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2023 #122

You are more accurate than you know Effete Snob Aug 2023 #130

Christofascism on the rise Wicked Blue Aug 2023 #124

What did they expect? mgardener Aug 2023 #126

Paging Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Frankenstein to the ICU stat /nt localroger Aug 2023 #127

Who needs Jesus when they've got The Golden Trump? tanyev Aug 2023 #129

Onwards Christian soldiers Racygrandma Aug 2023 #131

Trump is the Antichrist Native Aug 2023 #134

Churches only have themselves to blame for mixing religion with politics. cstanleytech Aug 2023 #135

What did they think was going to happen? Aristus Aug 2023 #136

+ Effete Snob Aug 2023 #139

Really, it's profoundly dishonest for them to pretend to be surprised by this. Mariana Aug 2023 #143

Their strong Messiah keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #138

'following Jesus' command to 'turn the other cheek' has 'gotten us nothing'' keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #140

Trump humping "Christians" reject the teachings of Jesus Christ??!!! Martin Eden Aug 2023 #144

It only gets worse from here. The Grand Illuminist Aug 2023 #146

It's taken them this long to realize that. republianmushroom Aug 2023 #149

These are the same people who believe God makes people rich because he loves them more. GoCubsGo Aug 2023 #151

Pastors are only just now noticing the Christianity-Republican disconnect?? Beartracks Aug 2023 #153

Pastors are only just now noticing the Christianity-Republican disconnect?? Beartracks Aug 2023 #154

The don't read the Bible TexasBushwhacker Aug 2023 #155

Uh huh. If your congregation sleeps with dogs you all get fleas. nt GoodRaisin Aug 2023 #158

Holy shit, these idiots are even stupider and more deranged than I thought. Initech Aug 2023 #160

It is a combination of the Prosperity Gospel and Dominionism. SamKnause Aug 2023 #162

"this has led him to conclude that American evangelical Christianity is now in crisis" drmeow Aug 2023 #165

*yawn* move along, nothing new to see here, SSDD Hestia Aug 2023 #166

you guys created this monster. AllaN01Bear Aug 2023 #167

maybe they need to switch to worshipping Crom, like Conan the Barbarian anarch Aug 2023 #175

Russell is finally seeing KentuckyWoman Aug 2023 #181

I have a feeling legitimate Republican Christians are going to dump Trump very soon. honest.abe Aug 2023 #182

Who are these "legitimate Republican Christians" you speak of? durablend Aug 2023 #223

The ones who are not criticizing Jesus for being weak. honest.abe Aug 2023 #224

I guess Trump is the antichrist MistakenLamb Aug 2023 #186

That's the remarkable paradox, innit? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #194

I always say there's a reason dim donnie shares initials and letter counts Grokenstein Aug 2023 #199

Whoa Effete Snob Aug 2023 #202

Maybe they need to rewrite the Ten Commandments Best_man23 Aug 2023 #197

Heads up mamacita75 Aug 2023 #198

Ha! I knew an MK in grad school. stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #200

The Bible doesn't work anymore? Renew Deal Aug 2023 #208

Multiple Pastors, no way ewcordon Aug 2023 #213

Care to explain how you know this William769 Aug 2023 #214

The telling has a "based on a true story" feel Effete Snob Aug 2023 #226

Want to see a Right-Winger's head explode? Seinan Sensei Aug 2023 #215

Most of them came for the water to be turned into wine. C Moon Aug 2023 #216

'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak.'" hadEnuf Aug 2023 #217

They're just now noticing? Serious question. Solly Mack Aug 2023 #219

This made me chuckle a bit. Handler Aug 2023 #228