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In reply to the discussion: "We do it for George." [View all]

Maru Kitteh

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39. Were you ever able to tell the watchman how you felt? (this is long too. :)
Thu Aug 10, 2023, 01:11 PM
Aug 2023

He clearly felt comfortable talking to you. I have a similar situation with a young(ish) manager who watches clearly watches FUX all day in his off hours and is obsessed with the idea that drag queens and gender fluidity is ruining the country. I've known him for years, and he never used to behave that way, leaving me wondering what had changed. I knew he had divorced about 3 years ago and picked himself up a new girlfriend about 6 months later. She works for us also but I didn't know her very well.

She's was an antivaxer when they started going out, so there's a good chance that where the FUX came into the picture. Now fast forward a couple years and she's shaved her head close, about 1/2 inch to 1 inch of green hair and she's started using (or having) a markedly lower voice. She let it be known that she did the hair on purpose. Nothing wrong with that at all, it's just that it was a pretty abrupt and major change from the long wavy light brown hair she'd had for years previous. She's not taking any sick time from work and hasn't spoken to anyone she works with about health battles so it's highly unlikely this change is due to any illness.

The first time he came into my office and started unloading about men dressing like women and being "forced" to call them by "their pronouns" I found it very bizarre, and I noted he only complained about genetic males. I was thrown off guard and that time I just tried repeatedly to change the topic but he kept finding a way to circle back, never took the hint. I was hoping it was a temporary thing and wondered if it was triggered by his girlfriend's recent metamorphosis.

Subsequent to that, I started challenging him. What about nicknames? My husband goes by his first name in full. We'll just call him Fredrick here (not his name) but men in particular have the habit of not even asking him what he goes by and just automatically address him as Fred, and he has to correct them. Usually he has to correct them multiple times. Doesn't he have a right to be addressed by his name? Many Johnathans go by the name of Jack. Don't people have a right to be addressed as they wish? Isn't it up to them?

He countered with what if all the CNA's decide they want to be addressed as Dr.? I pointed out that that's an honorific that has to be earned and granted. Dr.s go through a great deal of pain and the degree requires a taxing level of determination to achieve, much like the effort, courage and pain that goes into changing one's outward identity to the world. Dr's are also changed inwardly and outwardly in their identity by the the effort required to achieve becoming who they are.

In summary, I've challenged him on the idea that society should be the unquestioned arbiters of who we are, and how that directly contradicts the very notion of what freedom really is - the right to self-determination.

But back to the original question: Were you ever able to tell the Klansman how you felt? How did he react?



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"We do it for George." [View all] AverageOldGuy Aug 2023 OP
Geez 😢 blm Aug 2023 #1
Skulking cowards then and now. dchill Aug 2023 #2
Powerfully written. You clearly put some time into this. It is very well crafted. I was a writing Amaryllis Aug 2023 #3
Agreed! nt crickets Aug 2023 #4
Yes, that's an excellent way to Cha Aug 2023 #20
Yes! Bluesaph Aug 2023 #22
I kicked with a rec and a reply. And 8 will kick again just cuz AKwannabe Aug 2023 #28
Indeed. calimary Aug 2023 #29
Maybe a Letter to the Editor or an Op-Ed if there's a paper near the writer that's open to this POV. TheRickles Aug 2023 #33
Or submit to DAily Kos or .... anywhere you could submit it to get more exposure. Amaryllis Aug 2023 #34
I agree, Amaryllis! Powerful writing! nt Trueblue Texan Aug 2023 #46
They have called themselves many thing in the decades since. mercuryblues Aug 2023 #5
Nothing neo about these nazis gratuitous Aug 2023 #11
Spot on!! K&R onetexan Aug 2023 #45
Thank you for writing this ... n.t. doublethink Aug 2023 #6
I was a small child when George Wallace ran for president in 1968... DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author dflprincess Aug 2023 #10
Thank you for this -- thank you Hekate Aug 2023 #8
Stochastic terrorism has been around for a long time central scrutinizer Aug 2023 #9
The fact that you got out of Dodge as soon as you could... brush Aug 2023 #12
Way past time to soldierant Aug 2023 #13
You thrownin' down some old time radio vibes? johnp3907 Aug 2023 #15
Possibly even before radio. soldierant Aug 2023 #16
I had a uni professor who grew up ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #25
He whips them up... Tesha Aug 2023 #14
A whole lot less I'm willing to bet. Ligyron Aug 2023 #19
I just read Fever In the Heartland about the KKK in the 1920s Hamlette Aug 2023 #17
... Cha Aug 2023 #18
And, look at all the current attempts Cha Aug 2023 #21
I think it's so important for stories like this to be told. mountain grammy Aug 2023 #23
Very good read. Thank you for writing and posting. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #24
Glad you posted this. byronius Aug 2023 #26
Talk about chills..? AKwannabe Aug 2023 #27
Excellent essay! burrowowl Aug 2023 #30
Thanks for your story and memories canetoad Aug 2023 #31
Now the Klan legally carries weapons of war. mucifer Aug 2023 #32
+1 MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2023 #47
Thanks for the powerful comparison, AverageOldGuy. Hortensis Aug 2023 #35
Reactionarianism, standing in the filth of.... jaxexpat Aug 2023 #36
I do it for George... LeftLife Aug 2023 #37
Powerful, well written, chilling Wild blueberry Aug 2023 #38
Were you ever able to tell the watchman how you felt? (this is long too. :) Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #39
You have made an important point KT2000 Aug 2023 #40
Thank you for a great post.I was born in 1945, raised in South Carolina, left in 1967 after collage spike jones Aug 2023 #41
I often use the word confederacy here on DU BaronChocula Aug 2023 #42
Great post. Recommended. Pinback Aug 2023 #43
I remember the tales my Mom told me LittleGirl Aug 2023 #44
Excellent post. llmart Aug 2023 #48
I wish I could JustAnotherGen Aug 2023 #49
Thanks for this post. TdeV Sep 2023 #50
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