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Scottie Mom

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7. Contempt citation:
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 11:26 AM
Aug 2023

Elements:

1. Valid order;
2. Actual notice of the order;
3. Ability to comply; and
4. Wilful non-compliance.

Possible punishment can (but not mandatory) included confinement.

See: The classic criminal contempt is one where the act of contempt has been completed, punishment is imposed to vindicate the authority of the court, and a person cannot by subsequent action purge himself of such contempt. Gompers v. Bucks Stove & Range Co., 221 U.S. 418, 441–443 (1911); Ex parte Grossman, 267 U.S. 87 (1925). See also Bessette v. W.B. Conkey Co., 194 U.S. 324, 327–328 (1904).

Punishment:

In such cases, the offending person or corporation may be punished by both fine and imprisonment. In those cases where by accused is a natural person, however, the term of imprisonment shall not exceed six months, and the amount of any fine paid to the United States shall not exceed $1,000. Unlike contemnors charged under § 401, some categories of contemnors charged under § 402 are statutorily entitled to a jury trial before any punishment can be imposed.

https://www.bafirm.com/publication/federal-contempt-of-court/#:~:text=In%20such%20cases%2C%20the%20offending,States%20shall%20not%20exceed%20%241%2C000.

IMO, this judge has stones and will not hesitate of move on any contempt citation brought by the prosecutors. The order of date? She is not playing or giving the defendant a chance to fuck around and claim "First Amendment" rights as an excuse. The prosecution labels the material and her order applies. PERIOD.

Also IMO, she imposed the exact order the government was seeking because the defendant said basically he did not give a shit what the court said, ordered or ruled.

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Hearing on TFG protective order [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 OP
What good is an order if the defendent ignores it Beachnutt Aug 2023 #1
First instance jail him. Captain Zero Aug 2023 #2
That horse already left the barn.. Beachnutt Aug 2023 #5
Then the defendant can be jailed after given reasonable warnings, which have occured calguy Aug 2023 #3
Contempt citation: Scottie Mom Aug 2023 #7
The hearing is still happening blogslug Aug 2023 #4
Is that it? msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #6
IMO, this judge put Trump on the edge of a very dangerous cliff. Scottie Mom Aug 2023 #8
thanks, I've been dealing with other matters... good to know. msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #19
The hearing is still happening blogslug Aug 2023 #10
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #20
TFG cannot have his cell phone when reviewing documents LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #9
He won't comply cilla4progress Aug 2023 #11
I which case his attorney will be in jail. brooklynite Aug 2023 #22
pffffftttt.... Ohio Joe Aug 2023 #12
Alone ? Beachnutt Aug 2023 #13
Judge Chutkan give TFG a warning at the end of hearing LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #14
"Lauro speak for Trump" - what can go wrong? UTUSN Aug 2023 #15
Here is a threadreader link to most of this hearing LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #16
this is great reading! loving the handcuffs she places on Trump Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #17
Thanks! Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #18
Good flavor of what went on today. kentuck Aug 2023 #23
thanks for this link. it was an interesting, if not in part, rather disappointing read msfiddlestix Aug 2023 #24
What keeps him from smuggling in a cell phone? scipan Aug 2023 #21
If TFG does post a picture, the lawyers will also be sanctioned LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #26
Thanks I didn't realize the extent to which his lawyers can be scipan Aug 2023 #27
Here is the signed protective order LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #25
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