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orthoclad

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52. Nobody is pushing college on kids
Sun Aug 13, 2023, 08:40 PM
Aug 2023

WVU is NOT ALLOWING kids - poor kids in a desperately poor state - to take majors of their choice.

Certainly, bare survival, in terms of food, clothing, and shelter, is the first step. Even this first step is becoming impossible for some. Look at the homeless stats. I remember when a grade school education could buy a family (not just an individual) a home and a country cottage. Now, someone is lucky if they can afford a house by the time they're 40, and very few families try to live on one income (unless Daddy is in the executive suite). A bachelor's might be equivalent to a GED now.

We need broadly-educated citizens, capable of critical thinking. By channeling the entire student body into 21st century voc school, we guarantee a caste system in this country, where the important decisions are all made by inherited wealth.

I worked with my hands for many years. Carl Sagan pointed out that in the flower of ancient Greek civilization, people were expected to work with hands AND brains. We need to respect all work, and not make workers be desperate to survive paycheck to paycheck, i.e., "today's students", according to WVU.

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Everyone needs to speak Amurikin WhiteTara Aug 2023 #1
But the republican super-majority in the WV legislature is hard at work for the people Mysterian Aug 2023 #2
Florida has piles of money, but they are eliminating programs and colleges because they are "woke" Sancho Aug 2023 #3
I agree with that Dave says Aug 2023 #16
Sorry to hear this (generally.) elleng Aug 2023 #4
Maybe the "leaders" figure that an MFA in Creative Writing Buns_of_Fire Aug 2023 #5
Aha! So the legend is true after all! DFW Aug 2023 #6
That are so WRONG! Hugin Aug 2023 #11
Wow - what a quick and perfect response! Those pans make the best cordbread. erronis Aug 2023 #15
I agree. Hugin Aug 2023 #18
Boy do I want one of those! nolabear Aug 2023 #40
Weird-some of those are quite cheap-- viva la Aug 2023 #7
This is a crime Hekate Aug 2023 #8
So so tragic.... WVGal1963 Aug 2023 #9
I've been saying for a couple of decades chowmama Aug 2023 #10
But, Geez, they got rid of MATH?? n/t EndlessWire Aug 2023 #12
Think of it this way... swong19104 Aug 2023 #29
Not necessarily. Wall Street employs plenty of math degree graduates JHB Aug 2023 #62
WS gets plenty of math folks swong19104 Aug 2023 #63
Only at the grad level orthoclad Aug 2023 #34
Only at the graduate level. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #39
Fire the administrators first BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #13
That will never happen, just like slashing athletic budgets won't. AZLD4Candidate Aug 2023 #43
Tbh - I'm not sad to see the higher Ed degrees go Iris Aug 2023 #14
Maybe moreso - the MBAs. They are the bane (Baine) of capitalism. erronis Aug 2023 #17
Not psychology? Because too many people have an educated understanding Maru Kitteh Aug 2023 #67
Maybe we need more AI in... 3825-87867 Aug 2023 #19
Students with higher intellect (and means whether financial aid or otherwise) won't be interested ALBliberal Aug 2023 #20
Kids born to wealth are already leaving Warpy Aug 2023 #27
I live in Albuquerque I'm a grad of UNM. ALBliberal Aug 2023 #31
I moved out here from Boston Warpy Aug 2023 #49
Fellow UNM grad here - came from NJ as a transfer student womanofthehills Aug 2023 #54
Nice to hear both of your stories. ALBliberal Aug 2023 #58
So they not require a non-English world language as a breadth requirement for an undergraduate deurbano Aug 2023 #21
I work at a public regional comprehensive university and there are no undergrad degrees that require Iris Aug 2023 #77
Do they need a world language for admissions? deurbano Aug 2023 #82
Brought to you by the new... BunnyMcGee Aug 2023 #22
Sad to see the nuking of a decent poor state public sector. carpetbagger Aug 2023 #23
Keeping the taxes low, hooray! hay rick Aug 2023 #24
What are the remaining majors? swong19104 Aug 2023 #25
Casino and Voting Machine Rigging NBachers Aug 2023 #28
Really? BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #45
"Neal Brown is in his fifth year as the head coach at West Virginia." xocetaceans Aug 2023 #26
Exactly BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #46
What is a university's purpose after all-- Aussie105 Aug 2023 #47
It's ironic that even in losing, it wins. Brown has a record of 22-25 for his years at WVU. It . . . xocetaceans Aug 2023 #50
Athletics at WVU are self-supporting so these numbers don't apply Doc Sportello Aug 2023 #55
Ok. Then, charge the teams for a right to use the WVU facilities, name, etc. and align that with... xocetaceans Aug 2023 #61
Wouldn't come close to the needs Doc Sportello Aug 2023 #69
I can see your point. xocetaceans Aug 2023 #73
Spot on Doc Sportello Aug 2023 #74
there could be talented athletes treestar Aug 2023 #80
It's the way the systems developed Doc Sportello Aug 2023 #81
Eliminating football wouldn't help. Elessar Zappa Aug 2023 #56
This is just plain stupid for WV. Or planned to eliminate all critical thinking or diversity?? Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #30
Turning out powerless worker bees. orthoclad Aug 2023 #53
As Carlin said: They want obedient workers. Just smart enough to run the machines." n/t Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #72
Well put, but I'd say "just EDUCATED enough", orthoclad Aug 2023 #75
Vocational school for the ruling class's workers orthoclad Aug 2023 #32
Hey, tech school is a great option for many well paying jobs. College isnt for all oldsoftie Aug 2023 #42
Nobody is pushing college on kids orthoclad Aug 2023 #52
"bachelors might be equivalent to a GED now". YES. & THAT is a major part of the problem oldsoftie Aug 2023 #66
red states gettin' dummer every day ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #33
How many administration jobs were lost, as opposed to faculty jobs? FakeNoose Aug 2023 #35
:( Solly Mack Aug 2023 #36
Some math seems funny, here SpankMe Aug 2023 #37
That's the point across ALL universities BlueIn_W_Pa Aug 2023 #48
At least they didn't eliminate bachelor's degrees in Mathematics and Physics - Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #38
What will the football team 'student' athletes WalkerinSC Aug 2023 #41
Deliberately underfunded. WV's anti-Democratic voters chose this direction. Hortensis Aug 2023 #44
sounds like the U doesn't want to be a U anymore orleans Aug 2023 #51
do they still offer coal digging, mining where they cut the top off of mts? nt msongs Aug 2023 #57
This may cost them accreditation. mahina Aug 2023 #59
So they will not offer a B.A. at all? n/t Greybnk48 Aug 2023 #60
Well, Joe Manchin is your senator. Yavin4 Aug 2023 #64
NCAA Division I schools are football programs with side hustles in education. Efilroft Sul Aug 2023 #65
Like Division I Stanford and Cal-Berkeley? former9thward Aug 2023 #78
Yeah, so let's talk salaries. Efilroft Sul Aug 2023 #79
Thanks for posting... róisín_dubh Aug 2023 #68
Welcome to "Republican World" 2023 and living in Dumb Fuck Is Stan W.V.. Botany Aug 2023 #70
fucking madness Botany Aug 2023 #71
Fire half the administrators Sympthsical Aug 2023 #76
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